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Old 12-21-2004, 07:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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you jumped over levels, mr mephisto--which is in the end my fault for not being sufficiently clear. i was not drawing parallels between bush and hussein. i simply was not--it never crossed my mind to make that kind of argument, i would not do it. that you could read it that way is, as i said, my mistake, for lack of clarity.

i meant what i wrote, in the sequence i wrote it. the iraq war is as it is, in my view. hussein was a pig, but the americans have typically had not porblem with pigs in power so long as they are convenient. this is a matter of record, not a problem to check out.

on your individual points (i cut the "bush is not" thing.)

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Hussein is a mass murderer. Bush is not
in significant measure, with backing from the americans...from the outset, too: the americans were only too happy to encourage hussein to massacre members of the iraqi communist party right after the coup d'etat. the americans were not terribly concerned in the intervening period. they were most helpful to hussein throughout the reagan administration.

this is not to say all murders, mind you: but many of them.
i am not diminishing what hussein did--i just do not beleive that the americans have any moral high ground in this on the basis of which to complain.
this says nothing about the farce that was the bushcase for war.


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Hussein was a dictator.
agreed.

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Hussein seized power in an illegal and bloody coup.
with american backing. american support. look it up: it is a matter of record.

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Hussein personally murdered several of his opponents by his own admission.
same as above--again, not in every case (again) but the basic point is unchanged.


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Hussein executed hundreds of his own political party.
agreed.

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Hussein used chemical weapons to murder hundreds, if not thousands, of Iraqi, Iranian and Kurdish soldiers and civilians.
look at the link i posted above on this. i do not think i could possible say what is hows as effectively. and this is not the best site on the matter. it is simply a timeline.
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