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Old 12-21-2004, 07:06 PM   #22 (permalink)
stevo
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Originally Posted by roachboy
spoken like a true member of the ann coulter school. amazing.



i remain unsure if i should participate in this thread or not: i opposed the war from the outset, i remain opposed to it. i have nothing but contempt for the bush administration, and hope that one day bush will himself be held personally to account legally for every death this absurd, illegal war has engendered.

such is my optimism.

as for saddam hussein--who was undoubtedly not a great guy---all the righteous lather expended by the right on him would have been much easier to swallow had it not been known all along that the americans supported, armed and advised hussein very actively under reagan, up to the invasion of kuwait.

for a nifty timeline, check here:

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...rming_iraq.php

american support was not affected in any way by the gassing of iranian troops and. later, of the kurds.


this specific incident in mosul is indeed unfortunate---and, like everything else in this misbegotten war-----totally unnecessary.
Just so you know, I don't read ann coulter. I don't listen to ann coulter on the radio. All I know of ann coulter is when she is a guest on cable news networks, and I don't watch that much cable news. Because I speak what I believe to be the truth and it happens to be in-line with others does not mean that I only regergitate what they say. Conservatives are smarter than you think.

Its nice that you know something about the history of US foreign policy. If you thought about it a little more you would have realized that the US support of Iraq was during the cold-war era. A time when the enemy of our enemy was our friend. Obviously you have not come to the realization that we live in different times now. A time when the enemy of our enemy may still well be our enemy. A time where it is not about two nuclear superpowers racing to stay ahead eachother. A time when the spread of communisim is not the concern. We live in a time where it is the freedom-loving, tolerant and democratic societies that are under attack by religious extremists whose ultimate goal is the destruction of everything America and The West stand for. Where their goal is the creation of an Islamic controlled world circa 1050ad void of the infidel.

That is what we are up against here and to argue against fighting it by bringing up the old ways of warfare and the old world order is not going to get you anywhere.
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