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pan6467 · 12-21-2004, 06:10 PM

Kudos to Garagiola Jr. because out of the 3 teams (NY, LA and Phoenix) it seemed he was the only one to want to better his team.

RJ was done in the AL, Seattle was close to using him in the 'pen. As a Yankee back in the AL he would falter and have a horrid year. The Yankees, were raping what little they had left of a farm system. Granted now they don't have to worry about it because they can go buy any F/A they want. But, I do believe a day will come when players start to realize how unless you are truly strong in character, you will get sucked into that NY lifestyle and rather sit and get paid than try to work. Happens a lot to the Yankees.

The Yankees won the Championships they did by having players come from their farm system (or trading for excellent prospects) and having a few hired guns. (Soriano, Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and so on). Basing a team wholly on over paid hired hands will never win you anything because the incentive for them to win is not there.

Example: Who's pushing A-Rod to do better? He has a tremendous contract no other team can afford, there is noone in the Yankees system to challenge him for his position and so what incentive does he have to bust his ass to win? Whereas, someone like Victor Martinez in Cleveland knows he has to bust his ass to be the best so he can make more. If A-Rod truly wanted to bust his ass, have his team win the WS and wasn't about just the money, he never would have signed that contract with Texas.

Another reason I love JR., Granted the 'roids caught up to him, but when he came to Cincy he worked a deal that benefitted Cincy and if Lindner wasn't such a fucking tightwad Cincy could spend money on the player (SP) they need to win.

The problem is 2 fold in baseball: King George way overpays and the other owners are cheap and refuse to spend.

Shawn Green and Penny offered far more return for less money to AZ. Green isn't the Superstar people thought he'd be, but he is a steady player and could truly bust out anytime.

Edited: needed to add more rant...lol

12-21-2004, 06:10 PM	#18 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Kudos to Garagiola Jr. because out of the 3 teams (NY, LA and Phoenix) it seemed he was the only one to want to better his team. RJ was done in the AL, Seattle was close to using him in the 'pen. As a Yankee back in the AL he would falter and have a horrid year. The Yankees, were raping what little they had left of a farm system. Granted now they don't have to worry about it because they can go buy any F/A they want. But, I do believe a day will come when players start to realize how unless you are truly strong in character, you will get sucked into that NY lifestyle and rather sit and get paid than try to work. Happens a lot to the Yankees. The Yankees won the Championships they did by having players come from their farm system (or trading for excellent prospects) and having a few hired guns. (Soriano, Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, and so on). Basing a team wholly on over paid hired hands will never win you anything because the incentive for them to win is not there. Example: Who's pushing A-Rod to do better? He has a tremendous contract no other team can afford, there is noone in the Yankees system to challenge him for his position and so what incentive does he have to bust his ass to win? Whereas, someone like Victor Martinez in Cleveland knows he has to bust his ass to be the best so he can make more. If A-Rod truly wanted to bust his ass, have his team win the WS and wasn't about just the money, he never would have signed that contract with Texas. Another reason I love JR., Granted the 'roids caught up to him, but when he came to Cincy he worked a deal that benefitted Cincy and if Lindner wasn't such a fucking tightwad Cincy could spend money on the player (SP) they need to win. The problem is 2 fold in baseball: King George way overpays and the other owners are cheap and refuse to spend. Shawn Green and Penny offered far more return for less money to AZ. Green isn't the Superstar people thought he'd be, but he is a steady player and could truly bust out anytime. Edited: needed to add more rant...lol __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 12-21-2004 at 07:34 PM..