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Old 12-20-2004, 04:36 PM   #21 (permalink)
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How is this position different than any other radical position, some of which you yourself have expressed anger against on this board?

What I mean is, how are they doing anything different than what you are doing, just with a different end-game in mind?
well first off dont take that entirely out of context: the post was much more differentiated than that.

second i tried to be clear that, while this is my disposition, what matters as much or more is the discussion--which like i said surprises me fairly often--the requirement that i have (but usually have to suspend with conservatives) is that the premises of the argument be put up for debate in addition to the argument. if what you quoted was all i said, there is little doubt that i would not be here at all. i dont think anyone changes anyone's mind really on a message board.
given that, perhaps what i said was a bit hyperbolic.

third, the only time i remember being actually angry here is during the are you going to leave the country thread right after the election. there, i thought some conservatives were just simply being assholes. i had no problem with actual arguments.

and i see little problem with finding contemporary conservative ideology to be dangerous. it does not help its partisans see the world in any detail: it seems about the opposite. for all its talk about morality, it also blurs straight into support for an administration that systematic lied to the public about the reasons for war, etc etc,,,the list of problems can go on and on.

there are, however, people who occupy what i take to be that position, here and in 3-d world, whom i enjoy talking with--again, if i did not then i would not be here---and most of the time discussion is an end in itself.

but as for political compromise with the right? that is different from discussion, and for me there is little or no possibility of it. i think most conservatives are well-meaning folk who are wrong about almost every issue. they probably think about the same of me. i dont see much compromise from their side either.
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