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Old 12-20-2004, 01:10 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Konichiwaneko
so are you saying just because someone succeeded in life they should be punished for it?

Should we take the people who either work or got lucky and take more away from them?

Either it be individual or group, to take away from them to give to another without their permission is a violation of human right.
Yes and no. Bill Gates does give a lot of money to charity and I assume, as I don't work for the IRS, he pays his taxes just like everyone else. I feel that I should mention I am a big believer in personal responsiblity. All that being said, everyone needs help sometimes and I believe when provided with the opportunity to help your fellow man, a sensible citizen should use his "blessings" for the betterment of his society as we are only as "good" as the sum of parts.

Now that isn't to say that he should give it all away and while he has done some notable charity work, there is always more to be done. And while it is unfair to lay the burden at the feet of Mr. Gates, He has been extremely successful in his endeavors and has the means to do so much more. I don't mean to belittle what he has done, quite the contrary, I wish more people would follow his example.

To take from those that have to give to those that have not is not a violation of human rights, in my opinion. To live in a society where men like Bill Gates can work and earn a living certain prices have to be paid. It is his tax dollars that fund the police he calls on for protection, the firefighters he expects to come in his time of need, the military that keeps the borders of his country secure and funds dozens of other social services that he can call on when he requires it. To take forcibly is certainly wrong, but taxes (and I feel that that is what you are referring to. If I'm wrong, I apologize.) if I may use the well worn cliche', is the price we pay for civilized society and provides the means to maintain the order that allows him to thrive.

I'm certainly not advocating Bill Gates running himself into the poor house by giving it all away, but I do believe that there is a certain "social obligation" that has to be paid and there are other methods of payment. However, Gates was the example, so, I went with money.

On a completely different note:

I don't see why anyone would pick on pedro's grammar. It wasn't that bad. I could read it and understand it, which is more than I can say for some. For chrissakes, he even used punctuation. It wasn't absolutely perfect, (whose is?) but I think he did a fine job getting his point across.
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