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Old 12-19-2004, 06:04 PM   #156 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by hiro-acid
I wish you were just trolling but the rest of your post reveals you actually have no concept of the systematized racism that is established in our country. Hell, we have the Saskatoon City Police implicated in driving native men outside of the city in harsh winter temperatures and leaving them to die, multiple cases within the last 5 years even, and the giant blue wall of silence backing them up. But as you say, that's all just a thing of the past.. no need to take any responsibility for it and attempt to build a unified society, better just to tell those dirty indians to shut up and be happy with the welfare cheque huh? Christ, you're really quite an ignorant little bastard.. as we can see with such gems as this:



You, "sir", are a racist. Stereotyping of an ethnic minority is a racist act. I find no need to continue this further as you will obviously not hear anything I have to say and meerly continue to believe you are right, as it serves your own sense of righteousness. Your language is polluted by a racist vein of thinking, and, to be frank, you obviously come from a privelledged class background and it has blinded you to the actual realities of every day life in this country. Wake the fuck up. Give the chance, I'ld spit in your face.

/don't care if this costs me my forum account, racist shit like this should not be tollerated, and I wouldn't want to be a part of a forum that allows it..

You know, it makes me angry when you start name-calling. I thought I made it clear in my post that I'm not bashing all native americans, just the ones that screw around with their lives. They equate to me at the same level of what we label as "white trash"- people working just enough to get cash for alocohol and drugs. No ambition. That said, I would like to continue this conversation in a more civilized manner.

When I said "in general, we have cleaned up our act" I was referring to the many racist federal programs aimed at native americans in an attempt to integrate them into the broader culture of Canada (willing or not). A system-wide policy across all levels of government who's purpose it was to eliminate the culture gap by assimilating them into our own. I'm not talking about some joe blow who decides he hates all indians and gives them a rough time.

Native americans do not want a "unified society". They are proud of their heritage and unique culture and have refused to combine with the rest of canada. But there are remarkably few citizens who strive to maintain it.

You make a lot of assumptions about my life. In which category are you trying to place me? Everyone has stereotypes. It's inefficient when you don't put people into catagories. When you need to make a quick decision, you have to process the information around you as fast as possible. If you walk into a biker bar wearing a tutu, you're not going to think "the guy on the left wearing the all leather outfit with spiked helmet, he looks angry at me, but he could love ballet. the guy on the right..." no. You make a quick appraisal of the situation. "20 hardcore bikers, all looking at me with disgust wearing my tutu"

I'm not placing all native americans in one stereotype. I have a few predetermined stereotypes of people, regardless of race, and I have the observation that substantially more native americans that I meet fit into that stereotype than caucasians, middle eastern people, asians, or blacks. If I see a neatly dressed native american walking down the street, I do not judge him/her to be somehow inferior or less than I am. I'm not a freakin racist. I am not ignorant, as I tried to explain in my last post- I've met native americans from all walks of life. For 13 years of my life, I'd talk or interact with natives daily, or every other day. This has substantially decreased now that I live in the city, but i've only lived here a year or so.

From my end, it feels as though you did not read my post at all. You read the bit about drinking natives and assumed I applied it to the entire population. Do you spend much time in reservations? Ever spent a weekend in one of the many sprawling trailer parks that exist in these places? It seems to me that you have very little idea what kind of life most natives lead.
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