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Originally Posted by connyosis
Well, in Sweden we do not have those limits. If you need a new hip, heart, liver or whatever you can get it, no matter if you're 17 or 70. If you cannot get a transplant in the US because you are too old, I can understand socialized healthcare getting a bad rep, but understand (Not directed directly to you) that this isn't the case all over the world.
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I'm not trying to be insulting here, so please don't be offended by this question, which admittedly has a hard edge:
Does Sweden provide health care for anyone in the world who can sneak into the country? If so, I predict long-term illegal immigration into your country.
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I also think it is ridiculous that people bitch at people that can afford private doctors. If you can afford it and want it, you should be able to, but I also think it is a right that if you cannot afford it, you should still be able to recieve good healthcare.
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That's where we have a disagreement, although it's more a matter of degree than principle.
What I consider I have a RIGHT to is life, liberty, .... yada yada. While I know some impoverished people that I like very much, I still have a hard time with saying that they have a right to the labor of others, whether it be doctors, or taxpayers who are footing their bills.
I become even more hard-hearted when a person announces he has a right to a liver transplant at the expense of others, if he has destroyed his own through the use of recreational drugs or alcohol.
It's going to take a really great post from you to change my mind on that one.