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pan6467 · 12-18-2004, 06:17 PM

Mikey C, you made some good points, but the years you mentioned in the NBA there was a man named Jordan playing... HE didn't rape his team to get paid excessive amounts he took what he needed and told Da Bulls to put and keep good players around him. Magic did the same thing it was called teamwork. Today, the players are playing for themselves NOT for the team, NOT to win but for that next big contract.... it's far far more evident in MLB, but is in all sports.

Eventually, MLB, NBA and NFL players will have to do what the NHL players are ending up doing..... cutting salaries 25%. If they don't then what we will probably end up watching more strike and lockout seasons than played seasons.

As for your Ted Turner..... he didn't sell the Braves, Turner merged with Time/Warner and he had to share control then when they merged with AOL he was forced out. He had a no interest for 5 yr. contract with them in which he could partake in NO AOL/TIme Warner business.... that contract ends this year.... have a feeling old Teddy is coming back hard and fast. Especially since his nemesis Murdoch (Turner and Murdoch truly hate each other) has gained so much in the past 5 year.

But you did name some great names. Owners that know if they spend the money it takes to win they will have winners. However, Steinbrenner in Baseball can keep spending money hand over fist because his m,arket is unlimited. Cleveland's for example reached it's peak in the mid-late 90's and you knew it wasn't going to get much higher, it couldn't. So there has to be consideration for this.

It can be argued though, if the owner spends the money on the team and keeps a decent team and fan attendance keeps rising or levels at a high threshold then his investment when he sells the team will pay the dividends for the losses incurred for fielding those winning teams.

And BTW once the Yankees start building the new stadium, George won't have to pay the luxury tax because he's putting money into the stadium and that is in the owners agreement..... if an owner puts money into a new stadium the team is then exempt from the luxury tax.

12-18-2004, 06:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Mikey C, you made some good points, but the years you mentioned in the NBA there was a man named Jordan playing... HE didn't rape his team to get paid excessive amounts he took what he needed and told Da Bulls to put and keep good players around him. Magic did the same thing it was called teamwork. Today, the players are playing for themselves NOT for the team, NOT to win but for that next big contract.... it's far far more evident in MLB, but is in all sports. Eventually, MLB, NBA and NFL players will have to do what the NHL players are ending up doing..... cutting salaries 25%. If they don't then what we will probably end up watching more strike and lockout seasons than played seasons. As for your Ted Turner..... he didn't sell the Braves, Turner merged with Time/Warner and he had to share control then when they merged with AOL he was forced out. He had a no interest for 5 yr. contract with them in which he could partake in NO AOL/TIme Warner business.... that contract ends this year.... have a feeling old Teddy is coming back hard and fast. Especially since his nemesis Murdoch (Turner and Murdoch truly hate each other) has gained so much in the past 5 year. But you did name some great names. Owners that know if they spend the money it takes to win they will have winners. However, Steinbrenner in Baseball can keep spending money hand over fist because his m,arket is unlimited. Cleveland's for example reached it's peak in the mid-late 90's and you knew it wasn't going to get much higher, it couldn't. So there has to be consideration for this. It can be argued though, if the owner spends the money on the team and keeps a decent team and fan attendance keeps rising or levels at a high threshold then his investment when he sells the team will pay the dividends for the losses incurred for fielding those winning teams. And BTW once the Yankees start building the new stadium, George won't have to pay the luxury tax because he's putting money into the stadium and that is in the owners agreement..... if an owner puts money into a new stadium the team is then exempt from the luxury tax. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 12-18-2004 at 06:24 PM..