You just don't give up, do you? If you want to conduct a poll, be my guest, more people would be honest given the fact that a poll is anomyous.
As for my statement about it being facts, you are right, I'm sorry, I should've said my belief/opinion instead.
And you say that more people in this thread agree with you, therefore your definition would be the one more in line with society, correct? So I am the only one self-defining?
What were we arguing about again?
EDIT: I typed more but felt it will degrade to flames.......I will leave my opinion as is and let this thread move back to topic......if you wan't to start a new one though, I would be the first to reply
Although if you wish to continue this, please PM me so at least we wont hijack this thread any further.