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Old 12-14-2004, 11:04 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Stompy
Ahh, but what if you did spend 60 hour weeks, which is more than HALF of your waking existence, trying to bust your ass for a piece of the pie but end up getting nothing?

Just because you work hard doesn't mean you'll get the proper promotions or benefits.

A lot of people seem to have this idea of, "If you work hard enough, it will pay off for you in the end", and that's just not always true. More like, if you're an entrepreneur, have good social skills, business saavy, etc., which not everyone has, regardless of how much they work.
Yes that's true. I had plenty of companies take advantage of my hard working ethic. I worked for them squeezing what I could out of them. I left the garment center after 3 years of being in basically a legal sweatshop working 10 hour days 6 days a week for $4.25, upped to $8/hr after 1 year. I woke up one morning and found another job that afternoon doubling my salary. When I left and to this day, I can tell you how to run a cutting room, how to manufacture clothing, how to distribute clothing. To this day I can go work in a factory if I need to.

Now working for a TV company, when I first started here, I just knew IT support. Over the years, because of my own work ethic. I learned the rest of the business. I may not write or create good TV shows, but I do know and understand how they get created and made. I understand how production needs to work, and between understanding how technology and production can work together better.

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Anyway, a teenager working at McDonald's shouldn't consider this. What, he's gonna go from a drive thru worker to CEO of McDonald's? Highly unlikely. The most that'll happen is he gets promoted to manager making $30k a year, which... honestly isn't much of a promotion for all the "hard work". There's no incentive.
Maybe not, but let's use another "food example" Hooters. Some of the waitstaff have become regional managers, and eventually franchise owners. I have heard of a few McD's that have had some do that via "diversity programs" to give opportunities to black community members.

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You work at MTV, right? I'm sure there's room for promotion there. That's vastly different from something like a stock boy, bagger, janitor, etc. I don't think a janitor at MTV can get promoted to anything high in the company. Even if you did their website, I don't think there's much room for promotion beyond the IT department, so in a way you're very limited to what you can get (I don't know, though, I don't work there.. just makes sense).

As for the slackers during the dot com boom, all just a matter of being in the right place at the right time. Most of those people weren't very talented. A lot of that was bad judgement on VC, so a group of "computer saavy" teens could easily get a multimillion dollar invesment from a company to do whatever because they thought anything technical was a goldmine. The reality is, what they accomplised from that multimillion dollar investment could've easily been done by pretty much anyone else for much less. A lot of the older investors had NO clue about technology and how easy it is to do certain things.. lots of bad judgments. "OMG, I'll give you $1 million to make me a webpage that looks cool.. and put some of that 'flash' stuff on there."

That situation, to me, really had nothing to do with hard work or positive attitude towards others so much as just getting lucky - much like a poor man making $15,000 a year gets when he wins the $200 million lottery.
"Luck" is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

There's plenty of people who say all the time, "You're so lucky you work at MTV!" No it wasn't luck. It was hard work. I worked hard until someone noticed me and gave me a chance. When I got laid off, you would say then I was unlucky. But no.. I worked hard there.. how did that pay off? A friend of mine called me when he had an opening in his department almost 2 years later. Why? Because he knew I worked hard and trusted me. Luck? Hardly.

as far as this company is concerned one can be just about anything. I know of IT people who have created shows just like other people have come into the business dreaming of being in entertainment. I do know that our company is different, very different. I had to hop from company to company to find the company I wanted to try to stick with... it wasn't easy but now I can "slack off" if I wanted to and do it in the Bahamas if I so choose, all because I paid my dues before.

What one has to remember is that a journey begins with a thousand steps. You reap what you sow. It's the little things that make the big thing. I started at the bottom with just $20 in my pocket when I arrived in NYC 13 years ago. There's plenty of people like me that came over in the boats to Ellis Island and they worked menial jobs, some became very famous people, some even wealthy people.
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