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K-Wise · 12-13-2004, 09:36 PM

The problem I have with the whole orchestral thing is the remixes with it. And I think adding orchestral arrangements to demo versions is the same thing as well. Example..the remix for Broken by Seether feat. Amy Lee...it doesn't sound bad but it's just like they took the song as is with no real changes and threw an orchestra in back of it. If I was gonna add an orchestra behind my music I'd change the song almost all together and make it different....with these bands they're just grungy bands it doesn't really fit...I'd hate to hear something like "All Apologies" with a string arrangement behind it. Now songs that are written from the get go with string arrangements usually kick fuckin ass examples: G&R - November Rain, Silverchair - Tuna In The Brine, Emotion Sickness, Across The Night, Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin, Bread - Aubrey, Electric Light Orchestra - Waterfall (technically the strings n such are actual band members though), Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody, etc. So it has it's place but if it's not really part of what you're band originally is it sounds cheesy cause it's just some producer who doesn't really know you or your music hiring some guys who know even less to add a string melody and some horns behind your song as is....Lots a people had a problem with "Use Your Illusion 1 & 2" but Axle had already showed he had the potential to wanna go in a different direction with Appetite...he actually like writing ballads like "Sweet Child O' Mine" plus the band influences have to be taken into thought so it didn't surprise me when Axle wanted to do a song like "November Rain" among others...granted it may have gotten a little outta hand with songs like "Estranged", I can still see where it was coming from...so basically what I'm saying is if you're a grungy garage band by heart who's influences include The Clash, Nirvana, Ramones, Pixies, etc. you're music is gonna reflect that and won't sound natural if you let some ignorant producer throw a string quartet behind your song to make it more "radio friendly" and you should just stick to what works for you. A good band is a good band.

Asta!!

12-13-2004, 09:36 PM	#17 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	The problem I have with the whole orchestral thing is the remixes with it. And I think adding orchestral arrangements to demo versions is the same thing as well. Example..the remix for Broken by Seether feat. Amy Lee...it doesn't sound bad but it's just like they took the song as is with no real changes and threw an orchestra in back of it. If I was gonna add an orchestra behind my music I'd change the song almost all together and make it different....with these bands they're just grungy bands it doesn't really fit...I'd hate to hear something like "All Apologies" with a string arrangement behind it. Now songs that are written from the get go with string arrangements usually kick fuckin ass examples: G&R - November Rain, Silverchair - Tuna In The Brine, Emotion Sickness, Across The Night, Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin, Bread - Aubrey, Electric Light Orchestra - Waterfall (technically the strings n such are actual band members though), Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody, etc. So it has it's place but if it's not really part of what you're band originally is it sounds cheesy cause it's just some producer who doesn't really know you or your music hiring some guys who know even less to add a string melody and some horns behind your song as is....Lots a people had a problem with "Use Your Illusion 1 & 2" but Axle had already showed he had the potential to wanna go in a different direction with Appetite...he actually like writing ballads like "Sweet Child O' Mine" plus the band influences have to be taken into thought so it didn't surprise me when Axle wanted to do a song like "November Rain" among others...granted it may have gotten a little outta hand with songs like "Estranged", I can still see where it was coming from...so basically what I'm saying is if you're a grungy garage band by heart who's influences include The Clash, Nirvana, Ramones, Pixies, etc. you're music is gonna reflect that and won't sound natural if you let some ignorant producer throw a string quartet behind your song to make it more "radio friendly" and you should just stick to what works for you. A good band is a good band. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!