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joeb1 -
I don't envy you for the can of worms you just opened. You will notice that what Art does and how he does it is very artistic. I would guess that by using the label "pornographic" that you stepped in a good one here.
Mr. M. -
Honestly, I was so set off by the title and the WTF part that I completely missed the "sorry" part. I even looked at it a couple of times and missed it every time.
First, I think I might disagree with the foreign aid comment. I haven't been able to find a good source for numbers, but most of the info I saw doesn't seem to back up that comment.
And yes, I used the "fixated" comment on purpose, as well as the loose Irish and Austrailian analogies. I wasn't being condecending, I was being pointed. Saying someone is fixated is hardly a derogatory remark. Especially when it is true.
As far as the "conservatization" of the American Media. Huh? I hardly think the entire media establishment is leaning to the right. If that was the case, the likes of CBS and CNN would shrivel up and die.
What you see involves popularity. Media outlets that lean to the conservative side are becoming more and more popular. Fox kills every other cable news outlet time and time again in the ratings. What does that mean? It means that Fox is providing a product that people want more than the other competing products. If Americans didn't want a news outlet like Fox, then Fox's numbers wouldn't be anywhere near where they are. They would be closer to the now defunct Phil Donahue Show on MSNBC.
But I really cannot see the increasing popularity of the likes of FoxNews as an indication that our whole media establishment is turning conservative. Especially when you have a fiasco like CBS and the "memo".
Now, if you are sitting extreme left of left (which many here are), than even Nancy Pelosi comes across as conservative. However, you will find that such an opinion will not hold any water with any decent number of Americans.
And, I will be pointed here, others show an interest our politics, your interest is considerably more. I am not saying you shouldn't say what you do or that you are wrong, I just have never seen a non-American go out of their way, time and time again, to point out the flaws in someone else's country. Again, I am not criticizing you for it, I am pointing out my own observation as you clearly stand out in this category. It is fairly safe to say that, if a new thread is created by Mr. Mephisto in the Politics Forum, there is a 90%+ chance that it will be anti-Bush in some way or another.
Usually I ignore such threads. This one got my attention because it tried to define my country based on a complaint of a fringe group.
While I welcome the debate, I hardly think that America as a whole can be labeled because of it. Also, I see no evidence, whatsoever, that America is becoming "conservative". I live here. If my country were becoming as conservative as some people would like to assume, I would be jumping for joy. As it were, I am not jumping, nor do I foresee any jubilant bouts of jumping in the future.
Heh, at least I am honest about it.
/could give two shits if a boob pops out on TV or not
//I censor the TV my kids watch for reasons other than nudity
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