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Antikarma · 12-13-2004, 10:11 AM

I dunno, I won't respond to a lot of this because I find a lot of the comments to be uninformed speculation about a topic they know nothing of and only feel the need to comment because its a 30 second inconvenience in their lives. To me it seems a lot like the people who watch CSI and find themselves an authority on policing tactics. "Because I was once a child, or saw someone with a child, I must know better than THOSE parents because their child is screaming"

To those who wanted to stick to the topic, children screaming in public, I say this; I share your pain, but its situational. I've had my daughters both start crying in a restaurant. They were swiftly removed from the scene. But when I was working from home and would go shopping and my daughter started crying, I'm sorry but I'm not going to put everything down, leave, go home, come back and restart everything so you can peruse the frozen peas section in silence. And more likely than not, my child's screaming is less painful than the music they're piping in. Yes, I will make my child the absolute focus of attention to be sure that she stops as soon as possible, but your inconvenience is the last thing on my mind at that exact point in time, thank you very much.

That being said, yes, we do plan ahead. I'm not going to take my 3 year old to a fancy restaurant or a movie because I know that the chance is there, however minute, that my child COULD inconvenience others. And the aforementioned places are somewhere where children are not expected to be (as opposed to say, that supermarket I was talking about)

And to touch on another topic, I'll play devil's advocate. I was spanked. Hell I got the leather belt as a child. And believe it or not, I do not feel the urge to murder innocent women on the street or even to fight. Heck I haven't been in a fight since grade ten. And even WORSE, I spank my kids. Good lord no. And no its not an abusive battering with a phone book to hide the bruising, its one swift spanking to the hand. They know when its coming, and they hate it.

Funny, my two daughters are angels that rarely if EVER require this, and I get comments all the time about how well behaved my children are. Spanking, when used RESPONSIVELY and not in anger, is a useful tool in a parent's arsenal to be sure that their children. And should you choose not to spank, that is wonderful, but do not stand opn a pulpit and speak that spanking causes undo aggression. I would argue that its not spanking, its the manner in which some spankings are administered.

/steps off pulpit and duly awaits the flame war and threatening emails.

12-13-2004, 10:11 AM	#68 (permalink)
Antikarma Psycho Location: Yellowknife, NWT	I dunno, I won't respond to a lot of this because I find a lot of the comments to be uninformed speculation about a topic they know nothing of and only feel the need to comment because its a 30 second inconvenience in their lives. To me it seems a lot like the people who watch CSI and find themselves an authority on policing tactics. "Because I was once a child, or saw someone with a child, I must know better than THOSE parents because their child is screaming" To those who wanted to stick to the topic, children screaming in public, I say this; I share your pain, but its situational. I've had my daughters both start crying in a restaurant. They were swiftly removed from the scene. But when I was working from home and would go shopping and my daughter started crying, I'm sorry but I'm not going to put everything down, leave, go home, come back and restart everything so you can peruse the frozen peas section in silence. And more likely than not, my child's screaming is less painful than the music they're piping in. Yes, I will make my child the absolute focus of attention to be sure that she stops as soon as possible, but your inconvenience is the last thing on my mind at that exact point in time, thank you very much. That being said, yes, we do plan ahead. I'm not going to take my 3 year old to a fancy restaurant or a movie because I know that the chance is there, however minute, that my child COULD inconvenience others. And the aforementioned places are somewhere where children are not expected to be (as opposed to say, that supermarket I was talking about) And to touch on another topic, I'll play devil's advocate. I was spanked. Hell I got the leather belt as a child. And believe it or not, I do not feel the urge to murder innocent women on the street or even to fight. Heck I haven't been in a fight since grade ten. And even WORSE, I spank my kids. Good lord no. And no its not an abusive battering with a phone book to hide the bruising, its one swift spanking to the hand. They know when its coming, and they hate it. Funny, my two daughters are angels that rarely if EVER require this, and I get comments all the time about how well behaved my children are. Spanking, when used RESPONSIVELY and not in anger, is a useful tool in a parent's arsenal to be sure that their children. And should you choose not to spank, that is wonderful, but do not stand opn a pulpit and speak that spanking causes undo aggression. I would argue that its not spanking, its the manner in which some spankings are administered. /steps off pulpit and duly awaits the flame war and threatening emails. __________________ "Whoever you are, go out into the evening, leaving your room, of which you know each bit; your house is the last before the infinite, whoever you are."