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jorgelito · 12-12-2004, 08:24 PM

Fl8me,

You're right on. You see how individual experiences differ from generalities or stereotypes. That was my problem with the original line of thinking. Just read the first ten posts to see what I mean.

Although we both traveled in the same area, we experienced and interpreted things differently. Neither of us are "social scientists" (at least I am assuming you're not). If we look at things form a macro level, then we get a different view.

For example, if we aggregate all the threads and quantify the experiences we may get an interesting picture that defies our conventional way of thinking. In other words, we sandbag ourselves, but this way, we may learn something new.

As for the other two rebuttals, I did not intend to make personal attacks or purposely offend. Rather I was trying to present an alternative viewpoint on the issue. If you recall, I point out many times that I was oversimplifing intentionally to save time and keep the post short.

anti fishstick, your response is excellent. It is drastically different than your first post from which I had based my post on. You present your thoughts very well here (not that I am judge and jury, just my opinion).

In point 3, you make the same generalizations and stereotypes about Asians again. Additionally, in your first post, you do not indicate your "Asian pride" and imply shame in association. But in Point 1 of post 2, you express your point clearly.

wilbjammin,

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You are using stereotypes and demographics to "sandbag" the idea that a white man could have a meaningful relationship with an Asian woman. There are bad interracial relationships, and good interracial relationships. The way to judge relationships is to look at how they function.

That is exactly my point. It is the classic, "shoe on the other foot" example. I am assuming, that the content of the first page of threads made Asians feel the same way. Sandbagged. Both of you indicated negative stereotypes and sandbagged Asian males as your reason for not dating Asians etc. But in my example, you definitely understand why it's offensive or whatever or incorrect.

Do you guys see what I mean now sort of?

Thanks for your responses, I think they contributed postively to this discussion.

12-12-2004, 08:24 PM	#85 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	Fl8me, You're right on. You see how individual experiences differ from generalities or stereotypes. That was my problem with the original line of thinking. Just read the first ten posts to see what I mean. Although we both traveled in the same area, we experienced and interpreted things differently. Neither of us are "social scientists" (at least I am assuming you're not). If we look at things form a macro level, then we get a different view. For example, if we aggregate all the threads and quantify the experiences we may get an interesting picture that defies our conventional way of thinking. In other words, we sandbag ourselves, but this way, we may learn something new. As for the other two rebuttals, I did not intend to make personal attacks or purposely offend. Rather I was trying to present an alternative viewpoint on the issue. If you recall, I point out many times that I was oversimplifing intentionally to save time and keep the post short. anti fishstick, your response is excellent. It is drastically different than your first post from which I had based my post on. You present your thoughts very well here (not that I am judge and jury, just my opinion). In point 3, you make the same generalizations and stereotypes about Asians again. Additionally, in your first post, you do not indicate your "Asian pride" and imply shame in association. But in Point 1 of post 2, you express your point clearly. wilbjammin, Quote: You are using stereotypes and demographics to "sandbag" the idea that a white man could have a meaningful relationship with an Asian woman. There are bad interracial relationships, and good interracial relationships. The way to judge relationships is to look at how they function. That is exactly my point. It is the classic, "shoe on the other foot" example. I am assuming, that the content of the first page of threads made Asians feel the same way. Sandbagged. Both of you indicated negative stereotypes and sandbagged Asian males as your reason for not dating Asians etc. But in my example, you definitely understand why it's offensive or whatever or incorrect. Do you guys see what I mean now sort of? Thanks for your responses, I think they contributed postively to this discussion.