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pan6467 · 12-12-2004, 06:45 PM

KMA I think Mephisto does have a point. While yes, it is a small lunatic fringe that complains it appears they are listened to enough that allow the government to take control of situations. Perhaps it is because while the lunatic fringe speaks out there seems to be noone that truly has the power they have to demonstrate against them.

What amazes me are the people who cry there is too much government and yet they will gladly get the government involved in issues they want heard. What they need to think about is every time they get the gov't involved they allow more freedoms to be taken away or regulated.

Art, I respect you opinions and I believe anyone has the right in this country to demonstrate their cause whether it is against pornography or styrofoam or plastic army men. However, I strongly urge caution in these aspects for as I stated above, each time we demonstrate against something (and with the vast majority of people uncaring and unwilling to argue against the loss of rights, until it affects them and then it is too late), we lose rights and priveleges.

Granted today's world in many, many, ways is much bigger than the world of the past, but instead of regulating everything; temperence, understanding and acknowledgement of differences, is far more attractive then new laws. The problem we have in this country in reference to this topic is that people are more interested in what they want and not necessarily what is right for the whole.

I have always believed that nudity and non-seen referenced sex is far more appealing to me than the violence that is shown. To me showing children that the naked human body and sex is ok and not evil, immoral or disgusting, is far more important and better than allowing these kids to watch people get shot and killed and that is ok.

If the truth be truly exposed, I would venture to say far more people would be willing to watch sex than violence any day. It's in our advertising and sayings such as "sex sells". Yet, we have this group that makes sure the gov't regulates sex and doesn't touch the violence. Yet, violent video games are the biggest sellers.

What happens when you push sex out and say violence is ok, IMO, causes far more sexual crimes, far more perversion (because of the taboo idea), far more deviancy in regards to sex. And with the violence comes desensitization and copy catitis.

We need to find a middle ground a balance that works for the majority.

12-12-2004, 06:45 PM	#42 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	KMA I think Mephisto does have a point. While yes, it is a small lunatic fringe that complains it appears they are listened to enough that allow the government to take control of situations. Perhaps it is because while the lunatic fringe speaks out there seems to be noone that truly has the power they have to demonstrate against them. What amazes me are the people who cry there is too much government and yet they will gladly get the government involved in issues they want heard. What they need to think about is every time they get the gov't involved they allow more freedoms to be taken away or regulated. Art, I respect you opinions and I believe anyone has the right in this country to demonstrate their cause whether it is against pornography or styrofoam or plastic army men. However, I strongly urge caution in these aspects for as I stated above, each time we demonstrate against something (and with the vast majority of people uncaring and unwilling to argue against the loss of rights, until it affects them and then it is too late), we lose rights and priveleges. Granted today's world in many, many, ways is much bigger than the world of the past, but instead of regulating everything; temperence, understanding and acknowledgement of differences, is far more attractive then new laws. The problem we have in this country in reference to this topic is that people are more interested in what they want and not necessarily what is right for the whole. I have always believed that nudity and non-seen referenced sex is far more appealing to me than the violence that is shown. To me showing children that the naked human body and sex is ok and not evil, immoral or disgusting, is far more important and better than allowing these kids to watch people get shot and killed and that is ok. If the truth be truly exposed, I would venture to say far more people would be willing to watch sex than violence any day. It's in our advertising and sayings such as "sex sells". Yet, we have this group that makes sure the gov't regulates sex and doesn't touch the violence. Yet, violent video games are the biggest sellers. What happens when you push sex out and say violence is ok, IMO, causes far more sexual crimes, far more perversion (because of the taboo idea), far more deviancy in regards to sex. And with the violence comes desensitization and copy catitis. We need to find a middle ground a balance that works for the majority. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"