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jorgelito · 12-12-2004, 01:53 PM

Ok sailor, you make a good point:

I know what you are saying but I have to think about it a little.

I believe that BMW etc have apologised and paid reparations for their wartime atrocities but the Japanese companies have not. Otherwise I would agree, settle it, move on. But in this case, there has been no closure (at least a satisfactory one).

Also, making a choice to boycott is one of selectivity. For example, if you're vegan or anti-sweatshop, you are going to have one heck of a time trying to get by and stuff. You'll have to basically boycott everyone. But that doesn't mean you can't make a choice and a statment in doing so. Please note, I absolutely understand that companies participate in wartime actions (I would never be able to fly - Boeing, etc *lol*), however, I was trying to make the distinction between those companies and the ones that participated in slave, labor, concentration camps and committed atrocities etc.

Absolutely, you get behind your country in wartime production, but Boeing didn't run death camps etc. That was the differentiaion I was trying to make.

So for me, boycotting company "x" is more symbolic etc and a reflection of my beliefs. Similarly, many Jews indeed boycott Mercedes and Ford even, for their beliefs. More power to them.

I agree with the racial slurs bit; I retract, I got a bit excited. I get really frustrated because I personally see it as an injustice (yes I know life's not fair etc. blah, blah) and an insult to our vets. Two wrongs certainly do not make a right and I definitely don't want to participate in spreading ignorance or blind hatred.

I still hate Microsoft and Dell though...

12-12-2004, 01:53 PM	#92 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	Ok sailor, you make a good point: I know what you are saying but I have to think about it a little. I believe that BMW etc have apologised and paid reparations for their wartime atrocities but the Japanese companies have not. Otherwise I would agree, settle it, move on. But in this case, there has been no closure (at least a satisfactory one). Also, making a choice to boycott is one of selectivity. For example, if you're vegan or anti-sweatshop, you are going to have one heck of a time trying to get by and stuff. You'll have to basically boycott everyone. But that doesn't mean you can't make a choice and a statment in doing so. Please note, I absolutely understand that companies participate in wartime actions (I would never be able to fly - Boeing, etc lol), however, I was trying to make the distinction between those companies and the ones that participated in slave, labor, concentration camps and committed atrocities etc. Absolutely, you get behind your country in wartime production, but Boeing didn't run death camps etc. That was the differentiaion I was trying to make. So for me, boycotting company "x" is more symbolic etc and a reflection of my beliefs. Similarly, many Jews indeed boycott Mercedes and Ford even, for their beliefs. More power to them. I agree with the racial slurs bit; I retract, I got a bit excited. I get really frustrated because I personally see it as an injustice (yes I know life's not fair etc. blah, blah) and an insult to our vets. Two wrongs certainly do not make a right and I definitely don't want to participate in spreading ignorance or blind hatred. I still hate Microsoft and Dell though...