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Old 12-12-2004, 12:35 PM   #75 (permalink)
jorgelito
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That is a good question FL8ME.

My opinion is that:

1. China is an odd example. It might be the only Asian country I know of that is not as obsessed with white guys/culture as other countries. It may be due to it's size and relative strength. But it's not the easy pickings for whites guys like SE Asia.

As for white dudes' Hanoi hump-hump me-luv-you-long-time fantasy, well, that's a big reason why they travel there in the first place. Either sex tours, mail order brides, or fetish traveling, it's all indicative of the same syndrome.

2. In other areas however, I believe the overwhelming tendency is still to move up or "upgrade" In other words, getting a green card. Now keep in mind, I'm not trying to make a value judgement, I'm merely trying to understand a social phenomena. Not judging right or wrong.

Asia is very crowded and many people believe in the American dream and are in awe and wonder of America and the West (based on media, movies, etc). SO many people desire a better life and wish to emigrate to US, Canada etc.

As for perceptions of quality, beauty andything subjective, well, the underlying reasons would still go back to East-West dynamics, developing countries vs. developed countries. For example, Western domination in economics dictates the Western media, marketing, promotion. Therefore, western images of beauty of value are still able to penetrate Asian, African etc countries.

One example would be the obsession with eyelid surgery among Korean females in Korea. (Actually, eyelid surgery is rather rampant everywhere, a desperate bid by Asians to look "Western". Kind of sad don't you think?) Mutiliating oneself to fit a socially constructed standard of beauty imposed by a dominant power.

On the other hand, if Japan were to be the superpower today and Western countries the source of cheap labor and subservient roles, would white chicks be getting eyelid surgery to look more Asian?

On a small scale, it has happened. During my travels through Asia, I've met many, many Western girls (Europe, US, Canada) modeling in Asia. There was this one hot blond I was dating. After a while, she couldn't get as much work so she ended up dying her hair dark brown and all of a sudden got more work. SO in this particular case, she adapted to the dominant culture of where she was at the time.

Now, you could say, "hey what about Asian dudes trying to get white chicks?" Good question too. I would respond with, the gender dynamic. I believe culturally, there are different demands placed upon males vs. females, especially in that part of the world. SO the son would prefer to do well and stick around home, whereas a daughter (generally speaking not as valued) would actually have more potential freedom to do whatever she wants. Either marry some dude there, and end up serving him and his family or maybe moving abroad. The latter choice opens up the possibility for the whole family to be able to emigrate. All of a sudden, good job daughter! Moving to a Western country like US, Canada, Australia (as a family unit) is a big deal.

I've met so many Asian girls who say, wow, you're girlfriend is so beautiful, she has blond hair or blue eyes or big eyes. I'm ugly because I have small eyes flat nose etc.

That whole region needs some therapy and daily affirmation of something.

Similarly, I've met a lot of Caribbean and African folks traveling around. One thing I've noticed: They are always embarrassed to say they are from Africa. They always say, "I'm from New York" when it's not true.

Keep in mind, these are somewhat vague generalizations in an attempt to get a macro view of this social phenomena. I am not trying to offend any group but may use certain terms for convenience. I personally believe that healthy and civil debate contributes positively to our body of knowledge and understanding and furthers our humanity.
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