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KirStang · 12-12-2004, 12:07 AM

Wow, i stumbled across this thread while looking for a clothing thread, and felt that it was necessary that i add my two cents.

I am an Asian American guy, I came to America from Taiwan when I was four, and have pretty much grown up here. Now, taking an objective view of American society, I see that there are pretty much no Asian 'sex icons' in popular culture. In media, asian guys are almost always seen as the studious, smart, yet subservient type (ie. the computer genius). On the other hand, we have multiple white 'sex symbols.' We have Jude Law, the intellectual sexy, Brad Pitt, the surfer/wild sexy, and of course we have various singers. This would partially explain why asian guys are generally not as lucky with asian girls.

As for white people being attracted to asian girls, and being seen as exotic, it is largely because of asian american history. The first chinese girl brought to america was put on display, for viewing by the barnum brothers. Later chinese females came to america during the gold rush, in which the guy/girl ratio was very off (95% men vs 5% women...). For this reason asian girls were generally 'employed' in to brothels, since they were in high demand (most also had to pay off their travel debt).

In the late 19th century and early 20th century, tourist guides and media would portray asian girls as exotic sexual creatures. Apparently, this has stuck with us, since i still see asian girls being portrayed as exotic sex fiends.

I would think that asian guys are, in general, shorter. However, given that they are fairly well built (Chest, abs, ass...etc..), it shouldn't be a problem, unless they are like 5'3". Most asians i know are about 5' 8" not bad, considering the avg. male height is reputed to be 5' 9."

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Now here's my *own* view. As asian americans, we have a tendency to deny, to dislike and feel ostracized by our fellow asians and asian americans. I remember back in 9th grade, when i got rejected by a couple of asian girls, i was completely unattracted to asian girls for a number of years. Furthermore, it would be easy for asian americans to dislike pure asians, because Asian and American values differ (asian americans would probably be more american than anything else). Lastly, there is a tendency for Asian Americans to feel that their Asian heritage is, in a word, inferior to American culture. Thus, when they see asian, they see old, but when they see american guys, they think of superiority.

Truthfully, the White guy/Asian girl thing bothers me, mostly because i feel that my fellow asians are getting the short end of the stick. What is so much 'greater' about white guys? (Really don't mean to offend anyone here, but I am speaking from the heart). Alot of times, i feel like asian guys are not "good enough" for asian girls. In fact, i even had one guy say to me about competition over a girl that, "The only thing he has over you is that he's white." What makes white a plus?

Nevertheless, i must also concede that the majority of single asian guys i know are either relationship/sexually inept. In addition, most of these guys are also very insecure and shy.

Just my 2 cents.

12-12-2004, 12:07 AM	#65 (permalink)
KirStang Future Bureaucrat	Wow, i stumbled across this thread while looking for a clothing thread, and felt that it was necessary that i add my two cents. I am an Asian American guy, I came to America from Taiwan when I was four, and have pretty much grown up here. Now, taking an objective view of American society, I see that there are pretty much no Asian 'sex icons' in popular culture. In media, asian guys are almost always seen as the studious, smart, yet subservient type (ie. the computer genius). On the other hand, we have multiple white 'sex symbols.' We have Jude Law, the intellectual sexy, Brad Pitt, the surfer/wild sexy, and of course we have various singers. This would partially explain why asian guys are generally not as lucky with asian girls. As for white people being attracted to asian girls, and being seen as exotic, it is largely because of asian american history. The first chinese girl brought to america was put on display, for viewing by the barnum brothers. Later chinese females came to america during the gold rush, in which the guy/girl ratio was very off (95% men vs 5% women...). For this reason asian girls were generally 'employed' in to brothels, since they were in high demand (most also had to pay off their travel debt). In the late 19th century and early 20th century, tourist guides and media would portray asian girls as exotic sexual creatures. Apparently, this has stuck with us, since i still see asian girls being portrayed as exotic sex fiends. I would think that asian guys are, in general, shorter. However, given that they are fairly well built (Chest, abs, ass...etc..), it shouldn't be a problem, unless they are like 5'3". Most asians i know are about 5' 8" not bad, considering the avg. male height is reputed to be 5' 9." ========== Now here's my own view. As asian americans, we have a tendency to deny, to dislike and feel ostracized by our fellow asians and asian americans. I remember back in 9th grade, when i got rejected by a couple of asian girls, i was completely unattracted to asian girls for a number of years. Furthermore, it would be easy for asian americans to dislike pure asians, because Asian and American values differ (asian americans would probably be more american than anything else). Lastly, there is a tendency for Asian Americans to feel that their Asian heritage is, in a word, inferior to American culture. Thus, when they see asian, they see old, but when they see american guys, they think of superiority. Truthfully, the White guy/Asian girl thing bothers me, mostly because i feel that my fellow asians are getting the short end of the stick. What is so much 'greater' about white guys? (Really don't mean to offend anyone here, but I am speaking from the heart). Alot of times, i feel like asian guys are not "good enough" for asian girls. In fact, i even had one guy say to me about competition over a girl that, "The only thing he has over you is that he's white." What makes white a plus? Nevertheless, i must also concede that the majority of single asian guys i know are either relationship/sexually inept. In addition, most of these guys are also very insecure and shy. Just my 2 cents.