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Old 12-08-2004, 08:25 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
I don't think you fully read his post. He doesn't oppose abortion.

Fwiw, I don't see anything inherently wrong with non-Christians such as Ustwo making objective statements about Christianity. It's completely valid, and worthy of a debate. He may be wrong, but he's not incapable of being correct on such matters.

I do think he's wrong because I don't believe that Christianity has anything to say about what sort of morality controls should be in place in governments. Internally, I see pro-choice Christians just as consistent as pro-choice-of-taking-the-Lord's-name-in-vain.

On the flipside, I also believe that 'pro-choice' is the wrong position for anyone to take. Christian, Muslim, atheist, whoever. For the same reason that I believe no one should support legal infanticide, and with no religious references necessary.
okay...i wasn't reading. it doesn't change my real point, tho. Ustwo can talk about Christianity. this is important, so imagine it in all caps. As an outsider.

That's the only way in which he can speak. to utter Pope-like declarations of what all Christians ought to belive, and by implication tell people who disagree that they are not Christians isn't just rude. It's totally with out value in any debate.

I don't tell Ustwo how to be a Republican. Becuase i'm not one. It's up to him, the history of the party, his fellow republicans, and whatever diety they'd like to invoke (i'd suggest satan, baal, or mammon, but that's just me ) and none of my business.

i may react after the fact, and say i approve, disapprove, spit upon, would like to tear my hair out because of what they say their party is.

see how that works? his investment in that community gives him the right to speak for it, along with other republicans. my investment in this community gives me the right to speak for it, along with my fellow Christians.
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