Originally Posted by filtherton

I guess i was using the "of or employing the scientific method" as my definition of scientific. I don't make the distinction between morality. Science is science, regardless of the morality of the experiments. Scientific integrity is different than ethical or moral integrity. Or maybe i should say, useful data can be culled from experiments, even though the experiments themselves lacked morality. I wasn't considering data integrity or accuracy to be a matter of ethics, at least not the same kind of ethics we consider when discussing torture.