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Old 12-07-2004, 12:04 PM   #75 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
Also little comments like this, what's the deal with that. Calling the manger scene "christian propoganda"? The birth of Jesus, not Jesus Christ, is one of the most historically relevant events in the entire history of our pathetic race of human beings. I can really see how it must be offensive to some to take notice of a man whose philosophy was to love your neighbor, care for the poor, and do unto others as you would have them do unto you .
It's not that historically relevant if you're not a christian. Besides, his birth is much less relevant than who he was. Imagine me claiming that the birth of mohammed or buddha was one of the most historically important occurrences in history. Do you think that would justify the peppering of their respective idols throughout public property? I realize that it is difficult to think objectively when you're working within a framework that often implies that objective thought buys one a ticket to hell, but bear with me. I don't have a problem with who jesus supposedly was. I think if this country were more christian, in the sense of what he actually taught, as opposed to how christians actually behave, we would all be much better off. Unfortunately, many christians seem to forget that the good christian's faith is internal, and is represented by his actions, not the things he decorates the public square with. A close personal relationship isn't one that need be showed off in public.

I'm still waiting to hear how christianity is threatened, too.

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Maybe the fundamental issue is change. Why do we have to change? I think we were doing a hell of a lot better before, but then again that is only one fundie's romantic idea of reality.

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I think the liberal American element likes to piss Christian people off, seriously. If you guys noticed it doesn't take much to get me ranting, and I'm not even that diehard. Christianity makes a nice target because there are so many of us.
Change is constant. I know you think we were doing a lot better before, but i doubt you could come up with a basis for this opinion.

If anything, i think pissing christians off just happens to be a byproduct of people trying to live their lives. Either that or getting pissed off makes the loudest christians feel important. In either case, i think you overstate your position by claiming that christians as a group are pissed off. I think you neglect to mention the silent majority, who seem to be not at all mad by the direction our country is going.
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