ok.. rfra3645.. you are completely misunderstanding everything I say. I would guess that's fairly inhibiting if you wish to join in a debate that's being held in a language that you do not use all the time.
aurigus, that was a short, sweet and to the point.
d*d, it's easy for ANYONE to sound elitist when they talk about their views, I believe your point goes both ways. However, it is hardly a reason to completely deny one line of thinking just because it's believers are very adament. What's this about organized religions being 'secular' ... the very definition of the word is the opposite of organized religion. Exclusionist? They would sooner have everyone in their church! Come on!
Look, the very simple basic thing here is that people WITH faith ARE gullible! They fit perfectly into the very definition of the word. You've used 3 words in 2 sentences which you cannot properly attribute. I really hate when these things come down to semantics, but if you really do believe in what you're saying, why don't you work a little harder at making your point?
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