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Originally Posted by Superbelt
So, You aren't willing to expose yourself to it, but are willing to expose other innocent people to it because you don't think it is sufficiently proven that it is not safe?
Clap-clap.
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I'm not willing to go on rollercoaster rides because I don't like them. I'm perfectly willing to let others do that. Does this prove anything at all, other than that I'm "afraid" (uncomfortable) of rollercoasters? It doesn't prove that rollercoasters are dangerous at all. The same argument can be made about airplanes, cars, or any other thing some people are unwilling to expose themselves to.
In fact, there are a lot of people who are unwilling to shake hands with AIDS victims, because they think they'll get infected; even though there is tons of evidence that it's perfectly safe. Does this unwillingness to exposure, and the "common sense" notion that it is dangerous, prove anything?
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Originally Posted by Superbelt
This is not a scientific breakthrough. This is a choice (as there are alternatives). This is a harmful choice as everyone knows.
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Stop it right there. Not everyone knows that DU is harmful. In fact, there are many people who claim they know it's not harmful. And besides, nobody knows for a fact whether it is harmful or not, we just think we know.
If you cannot see the difference between knowing something because of *proof*, and knowing something because of *anecdotes*, I doubt I could convince you of my position. But I also know that you cannot convince me of your position with such a fundamental lack of logic.
Now, to make it clear what I mean: what I'd need as evidence is statistics showing a huge increase of cancer (or other diseases) in a given population (Iraqi's), and conclusive evidence that DU is directly responsible for that increase. Given the many other possible causes for that increase, it'd need to be some pretty good evidence. A few anacdotes about GIs pissing DU isn't good enough - we'd need substantial amounts of GIs pissing DU, and a large portion of those developing cancer, *and* we'd need to show that only DU is responsible for those cases of cancer.