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hmm, who could that "some people" be?
apparently you too want to misconstrue my earlier comments. did i say that rap and techno are not music? nope. do i actually think that rap and techno are not music, but just didn't come out and say it? no.
what i DO think is that a song writer has three tools at his disposal: pitch, rhythm, and timbre. thankfully, it's the norm to use all three in order to create interesting pieces. i never claimed that a song that doesn't make atleast moderate use of these elements isn't a song. i'd probably argue that that song sucks, but yeah, it's a song. whether your "controlled sounds" come from a full orchestra or tin can, the collection of sounds can be fully described by pitch, rhythm, and timbre.
so why make a song or part of a song with instruments that don't give you control over all of these properties? it's like assembling a relay team of amputies. sure, they might finish the race, but the 2-legged teams are going to do a bit better.
to everyone who still thinks i'm attacking techno or rap: i'm not. actually i popped in the least favorite music thread to try to give some direction to a thread devolving into "rap sucks" and "techno sucks". plenty of songs in these genres are "musically interesting". yet some are laden with samples and ambient scratching that doesn't add anything to the song.
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