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Originally Posted by yakk
One beef problem is we don't have the beef processing capabilities in Canada. We ship live beef to the USA to get processed.
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Thanks for the sound byte, but that's an over-simplification of the industry.
The Canadian and American beef industries are interrelated on so many levels it's not really accurate or meaningful to separate the two and attempt to distinguish between them. Prior to the border closing the wide-spread and standard operation involved American cattle being shipped to Canada for "finishing" (6 months to 2 years of growth) and then shipped back for processing (due again primarily to economic reasons, ie: cheaper over-all labour costs when proximity to market factors are taken into consideration). There are few Americans actually in favour of the border closing, those that are being the producers directly benefiting from it, but it is hurting the American packers substantially as you've got nearly two year's worth of cattle sitting up here they won't be receiving to process.
As someone living on the prairies I can tell you that you won't hear of another BSE case in Canda again, not if anyone in the industry has any chance of covering it up.. no one can afford the economic realities it would bring to bear, far easier just to dig a hole and bury it.
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Originally Posted by yakk
The war in Iraq is in order to generate an American military empire.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/
This project is signed off by the vice president, the secretary of defense, and if I remember correctly, the current secretary of state. They knew Iraq didn't have nukes and wasn't connected to Al'Queda, but they where convenient excuses. The only thing that stayed constant was 'we will attack Iraq'. And this has been on the agenda since 1992. |
Great site btw, nice to see I'm not the only one who reads it..
But the point I wanted to bring up is that Iraq has been a target far longer than since 1992. If you consider George H. W. Bush was director of the CIA during the period in the 1970s in which America began moving weapons back to his dictatorship, obstensively under the guise of fighting the Iranians, I think a more clear picture of the agenda develops: stage 1) install/support a puppet dictatorship in an oil-rich country, 2) create a situation in which said dictator is now a "threat" and must be removed, 3) remove dictator and keep troops in country for as long as possible to protect "democracy", and you've got the basic vision.. and really, it didn't take that long, a mere 25 years from having no easily controllable oil-source in the middle-east (the Saudis are anything but easily controlled, as Osama and his 9/11 buddies have shown) to having what might as well be described as a domestic supply-chain. I'm sure the history books of the 2500s will write it this way at least..
Hey splck, thanks for the transcript.. I hate Tucker Carson. He always seems to me to suffering from a gross case of over-compensation brought on by an inferiority complex (never ceases to amaze me how many people in the "greatest" country and lone super-power suffer from this problem, see: America & Guns, America & SUVs, America & <insert random item here>). Anyways, nice to see him bitchslapped again (I'll have to search the torrents for an AVI.. the Jon Stewart one was hilarious, especially when he called him to task on being a corporate/media troll
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Good posts all, nice discussion.. keep it up.
