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Old 12-02-2004, 07:51 PM   #51 (permalink)
KMA-628
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Originally Posted by smooth
It doesn't serve our interests to create examples and counter-examples to illustrate how it could or could not work. I was giving you a glib example of the argument in Rifkin's book of how it does work in the European model. I'm not opposed to you pointing out what you think are problems, but how can you know whether he addressed those issues without reading his complete argument?

My post was intended to encourage you to read Jeremy Rifkin's book wherein he outlines the historical evidence for what I typed, not argue the hypotheticals you are now raising. I mean, maybe I could go point for point, but why? He already did it

I should point out, however, that even in your example it doesn't "pay to be average." In your second example, worker B works almost two-thirds less time than worker A and makes only half as much. If you increased his hours to 6 (still less than 8, which worker A does), he makes as much as worker A. But the Eurpean model is that worker B prefers to take a pay cut and only work a fraction of the time.

That was the premise of me and Rifkin's argument: that people would prefer to make a wage that allows them to have more time out of the factory, rather than the goal itself being making more money.

So yes, I would prefer to work 3 hours and earn $50 bucks than work 8 hours and earn $100.

And I wouldn't even need to double my output to do that: a 50% increase in productivity is not working twice as hard--that would be a 100% increase in productivity.

Smooth -

I have to use the above method because it is the way I analyze things.

Also, what if the person is single/divorced? They would be screwed under the Euro plan.

I just don't see it as having any advantages. I really don't care if I get more leisure time, I want more money, period. I have XX dollars that I need to make in order to maintain, after that, it is all free money. To cut my salary in half would make me work in the red, I just couldn't afford to lose half of my income, regardless of the leisure time involved.

Also, this plan wouldn't work in my situation: Only one working parent. We do it this way so that a parent is watching the kids (i.e. someone else doesn't raise my kids) and we also do it to save the $420.00 a week it would cost us (yes, that is an accurate number). The other parent (namely me) is busy going back to school and starting a company at the same time. We need 100% of my wife's income to survive.

I look at this idea (and I think I gave it a fairly objective look) and I just don't see any benefit to it.
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