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jorgelito · 12-02-2004, 02:21 PM

That ad is brilliant!! There is absolutely NO REASON why it should not be shown, especially at all hours. We don't protect our children from violence in cartoons, sports, news or anywhere else. Why should a PSA be censored? That doesn't make any sense.

The people who object to this ad and live in the US should think a little harder on the subject. There is way more violent material being shown in afternoon cartoons. Garfield for that matter is way more violent.

I find it strange that gung-ho pro-USA people only advocate freedoms, such as free speech when it only suits their purpose, or that censorship is ok when it comes to something like domestic violence, but it's a free speech issue to be able to curse on TV or the radio. (and no, I am not some crazy-liberal-left-wing-nut, I'm just pointing out a perspective, that's all)

The argument of fantasy vs. reality is not relevant. In fact, I would argue that violence in fantasy is worse, as it only desensitizes violence to us more. Desensitization is still desensitization, indoctrination is indoctrination, and institutionalization is institutionalization.

The ad has purpose: not senseless, gratuitous violence like most programming. It makes you think rather than passively absorb information thrown at you, as with most tv programming.

Should we put TV ratings on basketball games? Should there be a age minimum to attend sporting events? Athletes curse, act violently, and aren't exactly a model behavior to emulate. Funny, Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson and many others are glorified, yet not admonished for their domestice abuse problems.

I don't know, either way, but we can't have it both ways.

Good thread, good topic, and good discussion. Lots of issues generated and raised here. What do you think people?

12-02-2004, 02:21 PM	#21 (permalink)
jorgelito All important elusive independent swing voter... Location: People's Republic of KKKalifornia	That ad is brilliant!! There is absolutely NO REASON why it should not be shown, especially at all hours. We don't protect our children from violence in cartoons, sports, news or anywhere else. Why should a PSA be censored? That doesn't make any sense. The people who object to this ad and live in the US should think a little harder on the subject. There is way more violent material being shown in afternoon cartoons. Garfield for that matter is way more violent. I find it strange that gung-ho pro-USA people only advocate freedoms, such as free speech when it only suits their purpose, or that censorship is ok when it comes to something like domestic violence, but it's a free speech issue to be able to curse on TV or the radio. (and no, I am not some crazy-liberal-left-wing-nut, I'm just pointing out a perspective, that's all) The argument of fantasy vs. reality is not relevant. In fact, I would argue that violence in fantasy is worse, as it only desensitizes violence to us more. Desensitization is still desensitization, indoctrination is indoctrination, and institutionalization is institutionalization. The ad has purpose: not senseless, gratuitous violence like most programming. It makes you think rather than passively absorb information thrown at you, as with most tv programming. Should we put TV ratings on basketball games? Should there be a age minimum to attend sporting events? Athletes curse, act violently, and aren't exactly a model behavior to emulate. Funny, Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson and many others are glorified, yet not admonished for their domestice abuse problems. I don't know, either way, but we can't have it both ways. Good thread, good topic, and good discussion. Lots of issues generated and raised here. What do you think people? Last edited by jorgelito; 12-02-2004 at 02:23 PM..