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Old 12-01-2004, 03:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
MacGuyver
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This is why I am getting into politics. To do my part to put a stop to this horseshit. Government is government. Religion is religion. Government is a protector of religion by guaranteeing freedom of ANY FORM of worship one may desire. Bada-bing, bada-boom. It doesn't go any farther than that. Religion does not have the power to influence our government, religious institutes are privately funded by those who believe in the cause. Sadly religion does affect our government, with the type of fundamentalist right-wing candidates that we have today.

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A Christian is called by God to worship Him always, and not just in His house of worship. This includes following His commands, commandments and guidance provided by His word, the Bible.
Shoulda, coulda, woulda. The problem is most "Christians" don't live that kinda of "Christian" lifestyle.

I read a story once where one of the characters was a mass murderer. He killed because he said that a sin, is a sin, is a sin. There is no difference from one sin to the next. You're still going to hell. So if you're going to go to hell becuase you stole a comic book from a local store, its no different than killing 17 people. They are both sins, and you are going to hell. He said that if he couldn't live the lifestyle that Jesus did, then there is no point to being a Christian. "Don't be a half-ass Christian". If you're going to sin, then don't live the way Jesus did, and dont follow his beliefs, because you're will just be going against them.

It was pretty interesting to look at it from that character's prospective. It's always better to keep an open mind to everyone else out there in the world.

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And for those who do not want Christians to "force their beliefs upon those who choose not to believe," sorry, but Jesus told us Christians to go and make disciples (followers) of all nations. To do anything less would be to turn our backs on God.
Wait a tick. Even though I am atheist/agnostic, I still have a bible. And unlike you good sir, I actually STUDY and analyze what it says, instead of blindly following what a preacher man might have told me.

To quote your own bible, from Mark 6:7 - 6:12
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Then Jesus went out from village to village, teaching. And he called his twelve desciples together and sent them out two by two, with authority to cast out evil spirits. He told them to take nothing with them except a walking stick---no food, no traveler's bag, no money. He told the to wear sandals but not to take even an extra coat. "When you enter each village, be a guest in only one home," he said. "And if a village won't welcome you or listen to you, shake off its dust from your feet as you leave. It is a sign that you have abandoned that village to its fate."
I don't recall Jesus telling anyone to force their will upon others, but merely to offer the belief and for those who do not accept, to let them accept their fate whatever it may be.

Mark 16:15 - 16:17
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And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned..."
Great... so lets let the Lord condemn those of us who refuse to believe and not a close-minded Christian.

As Jesus said in Luke 6:37
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"Stop judging others, and you will not be judged. Stop critcizing others, or it will all come back on you..."
Let people make thier own decisions

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Those who demand a separation of church and state are attacking Christians for their beliefs. There can never be a separation of church and state for those of us who call ourselves Christians. It goes against our beliefs.
Me, me, me, me.... me; me, me me: me!

I just want the sanctity of my government to remain impartial to all religions, to better serve the mass public.

Reading all that right wing "thought process" (or lack thereof) that BOR found, just gave me a headache. EXCELLENT find, Bill O'Rights
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