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Old 11-27-2004, 01:41 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Lebell
I don't know of anyone outside of the far left loony fringe that really believes Bush stole the election. Irregularities? Yes. Causes for concern? Yes. But did Kerry actually win? No.

In the Ukraine, it appears that might have actually happened.
Lebell, the circumstances that first "brought Bush to power", coupled with the
stench now emanating from this election's aftermath in certain precincts and
counties in just 2 key states, Ohio and Florida, fanned by your "loony fringe",
name calling, and your declaration; "But did Kerry actually win? No.", mesh
neatly with this:
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"There's just a lot of allegations of vote fraud that placed their election, the validity of their elections, in doubt," Bush said. "The international community is watching very carefully. People are paying very close attention to this, and hopefully it will be resolved in a way that brings credit and confidence to the Ukrainian government." <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=285487">http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=285487</a>
I read your remarks and the remarks of Mr. Bush, and I read the quotes
below. I think that we will "move on", only after we examine the short comings in the recent voting. Bush has no mandate now, or previously.
If Bush still has more votes after a closer look in Ohio and in Florida, that can only serve to strengthen his stature among all Americans. If it turns out that Bush actually has less votes than Kerry in Ohio or in Florida, it would be un-American for that circumstance not to be revealed, and dealt with.

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The Government Accountability Office usually begins investigations in response to specific requests from Congress, but the agency's head, Comptroller General David Walker, said the GAO acted on its own because of the many comments it received about ballot counting.
GAO officials said the investigation was not triggered by a request from several House Democrats, who wrote the agency this month seeking an investigation. <a href="http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=56007">http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=56007</a>
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The following counties have refused to be held accountable for the 2004 presidential election, by declining to produce basic audit documents until after all election contest periods have lapsed: Palm Beach County, Ft. Myers County, Pasco County, Highland County, Holmes County, Indian River County, Lee County, Levy County. Black Box Voting is requesting citizen audit groups to work with us to take these counties into full audit mode in December. Other counties may be added to this list. <a href="http://www.blackboxvoting.org/">http://www.blackboxvoting.org/</a>
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Do they have reason? With three weeks’ reflection, he’s not convinced there was an altered vote - accidental or otherwise - at least not on “a grand scale.” But Zogby says the “system is not geared for a close election like this” and if “many millions of people… don’t think that their vote was counted accurately,” the results are almost as bad as if an election was rigged, or decided by static charges in a thousand computers.
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