Powerclown,
Here's the scorecard as I see it:
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These were the alleged casualties in Fallujah FOR THE ENTIRE IRAQ WAR!
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT JUST TOOK PLACE THERE THIS MONTH.
NEVER MIND, YOU WON'T STAY ON TOPIC.
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Summary as follows:
1. You stated facts.
2. Smooth posted erroneous information, and used it to win an argument with himself. This is a frequent starting point, i.e. a "straw man argument."
3. Next, after posting the following GLARING error,
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10,000 civilians killed by the US in Fallujah, from your own link.
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thereby including all casualties from the beginning, in a thread entitled "Ground assault on Faluja
commences,"
4. He forgot that many men in the age range of 18-40 weren't allowed to leave the city. See below:
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Ustwo claims that the Iraqis as a whole aren't engaged against the US troops. But the witness accounts claim that no men were fleeing the city. They either stayed behind to fight or were killed in rubble defending their homes from marauders.
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5. Finally, he attempted to obscure the mistake by making personal attacks:
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Holy Fuck! Are you blind?
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I consider people like powerclown and ustwo lost causes in discussions like this
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Here we go again (for powerclown, who evidently has comprehension issues):
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Watch for this pattern in future threads. Then decide if you want to continue responding to such tactics.
But don't hold your breath waiting for a warning about the personal attacks.
Now that I've covered that, any bets on how the following is going to turn out?
Al-Zarqawi Lieutenant Reportedly Arrested in Iraq
Troops Find Weapons Cache in Fallujah
By SAMEER N. YACOUB, AP
AFP/Getty
Marines prepare to destroy weapons found Thursday in Fallujah.
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FALLUJAH, Iraq (Nov. 25) -- A lieutenant of Iraq's most feared terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was captured a few days ago in Mosul, and Iraqi troops searching suspected terrorist hideouts in Fallujah discovered a laboratory with manuals on manufacturing explosives and toxins - including anthrax, Iraq's national security adviser said Thursday.
Also, the U.S. military said it discovered the ''largest weapons cache to date in the city of Fallujah.'' The weapons - including anti-tank mines and a mobile bomb-making lab - were found inside a
mosque used by an insurgent leader. Troops also found documents detailing hostage interrogations, the military said.
Five Arab foreign fighters who escaped from Fallujah were arrested near southern Basra, where they were planning to attack coalition bases and police stations, authorities said.
National security adviser Qassem Dawoud identified al-Zarqawi's alleged lieutenant as Abu Saeed, but he gave no further details.
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It continues to amaze me that the people here who express such concern about civilians don't seem to care about how many civilians would have been injured with these weapons, or with anthrax.
I guess it's because the insurgents take such care to avoid collateral damage.