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Originally Posted by powerclown
These were the alleged casualties in Fallujah FOR THE ENTIRE IRAQ WAR!
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT JUST TOOK PLACE THERE THIS MONTH.
NEVER MIND, YOU WON'T STAY ON TOPIC.
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On topic?
The topic is the fallujah offensive is "commencing." It is continuing!
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The bar keeps getting higher. Now we are only talking about '04? Pardon me, but people in Fallujah are going to be affected by civilians killed by the US throughout the entire invasion. So, yeah, I don't know the number killed in the past 2 weeks. But I don't see how that new limitation on the discussion is in any way helpful when one is considering the overall impact of the assault on fallujah (which is and has been ongoing save for breaks).
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I can see how limiting the discussion to the past few weeks helps your point in believing that the US military isn't creating more problems for itself when it kills civilians.
But just because we held off during the election doesn't mean you get to start a new casualty tally!
Yours is a silly distinction, one which I'm hoping most readers understand and certainly any Fallujah resident would wonder what your point was in differentiating between innocent civilians (and their loved ones) killed last year versus those killed this year.
We don't know what is going on this month, save for the reports the military allows.
Brave independent sources are claiming it looks just like the operation has been in the past--massive civilian casuality and limited success against the insurgents.
EDIT: of course, I should have seen it coming given how you entered the thread:
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This is going to be absolutely fascinating, and I hope it is covered as much as humanly possible. The application of state-of-the-art intelligence and technology in an extremely volatile, difficult and dangerous urban military application.
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State of the art technology? Our military levels the city and searches for stragglers by night.
Absolutely fascinating indeed.