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KMA-628 · 11-23-2004, 03:20 PM

Well, I was hoping for an argument posed in someone's own words, not links to articles written by someone else (I don't do this for a living either, it is merely a "hobby").

Of the links, only one dealt with tax reform and it doesn't deal with the type of plan I am proposing. The other links are articles I read some time ago denigrating tax cuts. Tax cuts are not the argument here. Plus, the articles are devoid of some very important information relevant to the argument they are making, which is a totally different topic than being discussed here (in other words, they won't fly with me - case in point, article #3, referring to declining corporate tax revenue compares pre 9/11 to post 9/11. It completely ignores any mention of a recession or of any of the economic effects--of which there were many-- of 9/11. It also fails to mention that personal income tax revenue has gone up considerably--anyway, as I said, a different argument)

The best part about the first link is that it mentions that there isn't any empiracle evidence to support a "flat tax". Well, duh. There isn't a similar system to use as evidence, so, obviously there isn't any empiracle evidence. What kind of evidence did we have in 1908 when the current system was put into place? Or after WWII when it was enormously expanded? But we did it anyway, didn't we?

Let me try again, maybe someone else will answer:

If the plan I am referring to will hurt the middle-class more than they are being hurt now, how will that be? As I have stated before, I used myself as an example (and no, I am not posting the numbers--I did, however, post hypothetical numbers that are similar to mine) and have come out on the positive side in this argument. Since I am solidly middle-class, how will I get hurt?

If there are serious problems or things that need to be considered regarding a consumption tax, I really, really want to hear them.

Please make your argument specific to the points I mentioned and please make the argument in your own words, backed up with links if you so desire. Anyone can post a link, I would like someone to join this discussion that has thought about this idea and has a well-formulated opinion about it.

11-23-2004, 03:20 PM	#51 (permalink)
KMA-628 ....is off his meds...you were warned. Location: The Wild Wild West	Well, I was hoping for an argument posed in someone's own words, not links to articles written by someone else (I don't do this for a living either, it is merely a "hobby"). Of the links, only one dealt with tax reform and it doesn't deal with the type of plan I am proposing. The other links are articles I read some time ago denigrating tax cuts. Tax cuts are not the argument here. Plus, the articles are devoid of some very important information relevant to the argument they are making, which is a totally different topic than being discussed here (in other words, they won't fly with me - case in point, article #3, referring to declining corporate tax revenue compares pre 9/11 to post 9/11. It completely ignores any mention of a recession or of any of the economic effects--of which there were many-- of 9/11. It also fails to mention that personal income tax revenue has gone up considerably--anyway, as I said, a different argument) The best part about the first link is that it mentions that there isn't any empiracle evidence to support a "flat tax". Well, duh. There isn't a similar system to use as evidence, so, obviously there isn't any empiracle evidence. What kind of evidence did we have in 1908 when the current system was put into place? Or after WWII when it was enormously expanded? But we did it anyway, didn't we? Let me try again, maybe someone else will answer: If the plan I am referring to will hurt the middle-class more than they are being hurt now, how will that be? As I have stated before, I used myself as an example (and no, I am not posting the numbers--I did, however, post hypothetical numbers that are similar to mine) and have come out on the positive side in this argument. Since I am solidly middle-class, how will I get hurt? If there are serious problems or things that need to be considered regarding a consumption tax, I really, really want to hear them. Please make your argument specific to the points I mentioned and please make the argument in your own words, backed up with links if you so desire. Anyone can post a link, I would like someone to join this discussion that has thought about this idea and has a well-formulated opinion about it. Last edited by KMA-628; 11-23-2004 at 03:22 PM..