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Old 11-23-2004, 02:32 PM   #49 (permalink)
KMA-628
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Originally Posted by abscondo
As bad as the current tax code is, I'm terrified at the thought of our current leaders rewriting it. It will favor the rich, pure and simple.

That's not the way they'll present it, of course; we'll hear that simpler = better, flatter = fairer, calculated rephrasings like "death tax," claims that the new system will help grow the economy and allow the elimination of the IRS, etc.

The end result will be that the middle class will be screwed. Politicians will remove taxes on things the rich enjoy, such as capital gains and dividends. They'll allow corporations to pay less, maybe even nothing. The poor will be protected by some threshold or rebate. The only people left to tax will be us in the middle class.

And my fellow Americans will take the bait. They'll swallow the arguments and embrace a regressive tax that will end up costing them money. How do I know? Because they believe so many other false claims made by this administration, such as "we invaded Iraq as part of a war on terrorism."
Well, at least there is a little more discussion on this.

A few questions to you:

1) If it is broke, who gets to fix it? Politicians as a whole fall under the "rich" category, Republican or Democrat. If the "current leaders" cannot be trusted to do it, who can? Congress is the one to propose and implement a plan, and their status won't be changing much over the next several election cycles.

2) How does this plan hurt the middle-class more. I am, by definition, middle-class. I took a very long look at the numbers and I will be better off under a consumption tax. I hear this argument over and over, but I haven't seen anything to lend credence to it (i.e. show numbers).

It should be obvious that I have gone to great lengths to understand my side of the argument. Why can't anybody come back with something more than talking points? You say I will be hurt more, but how? If I am missing something here, I would like to be made aware of it.

Here is an example of the opposition points that annoy me. I want details. I want to hear more than "what", I want to hear "why". So far, the only person remotely doing that is kutulu.

Editorial Masquerading as a News Article

I really, really want to discuss this, with anybody. I don't want to seem like I am trying to knock everybody down, I am trying to pose my side of the argument with in-depth analysis and understanding of the topic. I have said this over and over, but if there are "real" points of contention, I would like to be made known of them.

In other words, I need more than talking points.

i.e. - The middle-class will get hurt under this plan followed by an understandable example, preferably with some numbers (since this is a topic of numbers) to back-up the claim.
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