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Superbelt · 11-23-2004, 04:41 AM

Hey daswig, if you are gonna post in this subject, could you please post something substantial and intelligent rather than ad-hominem attacks?

I take from both of your posts that you really know nothing about Bev and what she does and are only going off of what other people have said about her to base your opinion. Otherwise you would have had some specific argument against her rather than the generic blow-off of "She's a nutjob."

Fact is she is apparently the only person, with her organization, who is taking the concepts of 'accountability' and 'transparency of government' in our electoral process seriously. That deserves some respect. Her website has outlined very cogent arguments and has backed it up with evidence. Her efforts have helped to convince states to review their transfer to electronic voting, resulting in some absolutely halting all forward progress into the medium.

What do you have against someone who is raising warning bells against a method of voting that has such clear flaws (among many others) such as:
Releasing the sourcecode over ftp servers, immediately opening the software to hackers.
Running it unsecurely by using Microsoft Access as the database architecture, and establishing the encryption with a code that was compromised in 1997, thus worthless.
Developing absolutely no means of verification of voting. What is so hard, and so abominable that they would absolutely refuse to add in a paper trail? Computers crash all the time, software fucks up constantly, the most important piece of software for most americans, Microsoft OS has had enough patches since it's inception to show that no program should be trusted.

What do you have against someone campaigning for more accountability, better standards? Do you think she is doing all this as a flaming partisan? (I assume as much as you say "She's the Left's equivalent of Carol Valentine." Where is your basis for this? Do you believe it is a quality of the left alone to want to have verifiable voting? Ok....) She did file her FOIA request before the election. The outcome didn't matter to her, only fixing america's system of voting.

Please, if you come back to this thread, come with something better than puerile attacks.

11-23-2004, 04:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	Hey daswig, if you are gonna post in this subject, could you please post something substantial and intelligent rather than ad-hominem attacks? I take from both of your posts that you really know nothing about Bev and what she does and are only going off of what other people have said about her to base your opinion. Otherwise you would have had some specific argument against her rather than the generic blow-off of "She's a nutjob." Fact is she is apparently the only person, with her organization, who is taking the concepts of 'accountability' and 'transparency of government' in our electoral process seriously. That deserves some respect. Her website has outlined very cogent arguments and has backed it up with evidence. Her efforts have helped to convince states to review their transfer to electronic voting, resulting in some absolutely halting all forward progress into the medium. What do you have against someone who is raising warning bells against a method of voting that has such clear flaws (among many others) such as: Releasing the sourcecode over ftp servers, immediately opening the software to hackers. Running it unsecurely by using Microsoft Access as the database architecture, and establishing the encryption with a code that was compromised in 1997, thus worthless. Developing absolutely no means of verification of voting. What is so hard, and so abominable that they would absolutely refuse to add in a paper trail? Computers crash all the time, software fucks up constantly, the most important piece of software for most americans, Microsoft OS has had enough patches since it's inception to show that no program should be trusted. What do you have against someone campaigning for more accountability, better standards? Do you think she is doing all this as a flaming partisan? (I assume as much as you say "She's the Left's equivalent of Carol Valentine." Where is your basis for this? Do you believe it is a quality of the left alone to want to have verifiable voting? Ok....) She did file her FOIA request before the election. The outcome didn't matter to her, only fixing america's system of voting. Please, if you come back to this thread, come with something better than puerile attacks.