Thread: Ultimate God?
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Old 11-22-2004, 11:17 AM   #57 (permalink)
Livia Regina
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Originally Posted by WillyPete
This is my issue with mainstream christianity.
How does a panel of bishops in ancient times when the world was still flat get to determine what God is like? If they received direct communication from God on this matter, why aren't THEIR words in the bible like all the other people that spoke to Him.
They expected the council to be moved by the Holy Spirit to do God's will - they didn't expect God to write on the wall for them. The idea was to get enough holy men in a room together discussing doctrine and everything would come out as God wished because everyone present had the Holy Spirit. Also, there wasn't a standard version of the Bible until after Charlemagne so their words might have been in one of the versions that was not accepted.

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Originally Posted by asaris
That's simply false, Livia, as I've already argued. From the proposition "God knows that I will drive to Grand Rapids tomorrow", you can only infer (A)"Necessarily, I will drive to Grand Rapids tomorrow", not (A')"I will necessarily drive to Grand Rapids tomorrow".
A' is the only thing that you can argue from the proposition "God knows I will drive to Grand Rapids tomorrow." How can God know infallibly what I am going to choose (because from his point of view, I already have chosen) and still give me the choice? The only option I have is the one he knows I will take. Even when I was a Christian I didn't believe that God was omniscient because it is incompatible with free will. I'd argue that God knows every option I have and which one I am most likely to choose but he does not know for certain what I will choose.
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