So far from the original topic, but still a lively exchange of ideas....
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We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We are met to dedicate a portion of it as the final resting place of those who gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.
The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us, the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work that they have thus far so nobly carried on. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us, that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave their last full measure of devotion; that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain.....
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I believe that the following quote is in keeping with the quote above, but....
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Not a single member of Congress wanted to sacrifice their child for the war in Iraq. And who could blame them? Who would want to give up their child? Would you?
[Shot of President Bush appears onscreen]
Narrator: Would he? I've always been amazed that the very people forced to live in the worst parts of town, go to the worst schools, and who have it the hardest are always the first to step up, to defend us. They serve so that we don't have to. They offer to give up their lives so that we can be free. It is remarkably their gift to us. And all they ask for in return is that we never send them into harm's way unless it is absolutely necessary. Will they ever trust us again?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361596/quotes
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If you believe, as I do, in what Moore scripted above, in Farenheit 9/11, and
in Lincoln's premise that we cannot permit the dead who sacrificed their
all to preserve their country, to ever "die in vain", what do we say to the families of the dead and
the wounded in Bushco's "war of choice", and, a more pressing matter, to
those Bush and Rumsfeld order to fight "to bring freedom to the Iraqi people",
in the coming days.....and months.....and years......
What the fuck are our leaders ordering are troops to fight and die for?
Is another U.S. casualty in Iraq "absolutely necessary", or worth the cost?
God bless the fallen U.S. soldiers and the Iraqi non-combatants in Fallujah.
Investigate and prosecute Americans and foreigners who conspire to wage <br>illegal military acts of aggression, and who commit war crimes. If our
appointed leaders do not act legally, morally, and forthrightly, as citizens,
we have no obligation to support them in their immorality, deceipt, and
aggression. Supporting these leaders is not patriotic. Protesting and resisting
their criminality is the highest form of patriotism that an American can
aspire to, and it is the only way to insure that our troops do not die in vain.