Some shows produce good pits, some don't. For example, Killswitch Engage and In Flames with at least 3k people packed into Roseland Ballroom in NYC had great pits, not many idiots flailing around, and the crowd was dense enough that I (300lbs, 6'8") could crowd surf.
On the other hand, Shadows Fall at a small, local place (
www.empressballrom.com) was full of wankers (although the show kicked ass.) One kid crossed his arms, stomped back and forth across the empty circle about 5 times, slapped me in the arm, went back to stomping, then started flailing. My brother (4 years younger than me, but could pass for my identical twin) and I were standing toward the side protecting a tour photographer while he got a few good shots, along with a few small girls who didn't really want to get hurt, and an idiot jumped right between us, fists out, and tried to take them all down. My brother and I each grabbed a shoulder, and threw him across the room. He was airborne for about 15 feet, and when he hit the crowd, a real pit broke out.
Some people just have no idea what pit etiquette is anymore. One kid punched me in the face because I pushed him (funny side note: the stupid fuck is in jail for credit card fraud right now.)
Of course, you haven't seen a real pit until you've been part of the wall of death.
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Originally Posted by kiwiman
You guys need to see a Hatebreed pit.
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Bunch of idiots flailing. I took two punches to the chest with brass knuckles and three to the jaw with sap gloves. When another guy who happened to be an army MP got hit, he and I talked to security and got permission to take them down and drag their asses out onto the street. They were that bad. Any show with hardcore bands is going to end up with more fighting than real moshing
edit: almost forgot, cartwheels in the pit should be punishable by death