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Originally Posted by daswig
Why? If they're doing the same work, what makes the work of the person with the family worth more than the work of the teenager? I thought we were supposed to be about "equal pay for equal work"?
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And I thought we were supposed to be all about having a liveable honest wage for an honest day's work society.
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Originally Posted by daswig
There are other reasons why kids don't graduate high school, I suppose, but considering that most special ed students end up graduating, how hard can it be for those with average IQs?
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Again, you have to put others down, because you can't deal with the fact others may not be as lucky as you were. Life happens.
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Originally Posted by daswig
Ah, forgive me for being "shallow, elitist, and ignorant". I'll refrain from posting what I think of your viewpoint, other than to say that you've obviously bought into the whole cult of victimization thing, and given up completely on the idea of self-determination and personal responsibility for one's own actions.
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You can say whatever you want about my viewpoint. I don't buy into "we are victims", I buy into "life happens and everyone at one point needs help." Even W who never ran a successful business but was able to have daddy and the Saud families bail him out time after time. But that is too partisan to point out now isn't it? True though.
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Originally Posted by daswig
I've yet to meet ANYBODY who has even a minimum wage job that couldn't manage or afford to take one class a semester at the local community college. Hell, they offer financial aid there that covers tuition and books (Pell grants, for example), and we're talking a couple of hours a week, with campuses literally everywhere (now they have telecommuting and satellite classroom programs, where you can take classes over the internet via streaming video or via CCTV in communities that may not have a physical campus in them). For that matter, there's always the Job Corps or the military, where you can learn a trade, earn money for college, and get a paycheck simultaneously.
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Well then you must meet some very well paid workers. Financial aid is relatively easy to get. But not everyone is college material, some people are better at trades and unfortunately a lot of trade schools fill fast or don't accept financial aid like colleges do. Plus, financial aid doesn't cover everything, trust me I am going now and I am paying out of pocket almost as much as I am getting in aid. Thank God my parents have money and are helping me. If they didn't there would be no way I could afford it, and last year I only had $7,000 in income. So there's a very poor person trying to better himself and the aid isn't there. And next year it is being reported there will be less aid.
BTW, you need to maintain a 2.5 (B) average, at minimum 10 credit hours at an ACCREDITED school in order to get full aid. You drop below a B you lose aid. You drop hours you lose aid.
The military? That's an easy answer, then complain about how we have soldiers who don't want to be in combat. Why would anyone want to enlist with a war hanging over their heads. Besides last I heard a high school diploma or GED was needed to enlist.
Job Corps? is there still one and how big is it, how many do they take what are the requirements, what's the pay? I truly don't know anything about it so can't comment.