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Originally Posted by zen_tom
What utter paranoid bollocks. First you state that they wouldn't hesitate retaliation with nuclear weapons, then you leap straight to the rabid conclusion that Israel is "in their crosshairs"
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Iran's government has stated that if they feel that their nuclear program is threatened, that they are willing to take preemptive action against our forces in the Persian Gulf.
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Yes they are developing nuclear arms - In case you haven't noticed, nuclear arms were invented over 50 years ago and are already held by a number of countries around the world, including the hot-headed, politically unstable, untrustworthy, unilateral, aggressive and self-serving one known as the USA. Against this sort of threat, wouldn't you want some kind of deterrant too?
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Yes, if I was an Iranian official, I'd be shitting my pants and trying to kiss Bush's ass right now to save my people. Unfortunately, these people are motivated by religious extremism and fanaticism and have more faith in the concept of martyrdom than I do.
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Seriously, please - seriously, try and explain what motives a country like Iran (or any country) might possibly have in actually being the first to use a nuclear device when the consequences would be so devastating? Perhaps they are all mad over there? Is it the sun? All that sand? Camel hairs in the atmosphere? Or is it because they are all shady Muslims? Or perhaps you need to sit and realise for a moment that people around the world are all exactly the same and worry about the same small things that you and I worry about. i.e. Getting fed, falling in love, having and caring for your children etc.
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First, I don't appreciate your insinuation that I'm prejudiced against Muslims or Arabs. Once again, the leaders are fanatics who believe that the US is the "Great Satan" and that it is the will of God that we should all be killed. Another reiteration: they have threatened a first strike if they feel that their nuclear program is threatened. They also don't see any difference between the US and Israel. They (still talking abuot fanatical leaders) believe that Israel should be destroyed at any cost. Religious fanaticism and the belief that taking the other guy out wtih you will get you 72 virgins in the afterlife can lead people to do some pretty bad stuff. I'm not saying that Israel should not be held accountable for their wrongdoings, but right now I'm concerned with a nation that is run by radicals who hate us and have nukes.
I realise that everyone around the world is worrying about the same things, and I would really like to see us all settle down and worry
only about those, but as
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Do you really think military action (read thousands of civillian deaths and dangerously increasing levels of global insecurity) is a sensible option?
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No. I don't think there are any sensible, plausible options left. I'm as displeaased with the Iraq situation as anyone. It's hard to describe what it's like to see a news report come on, and see the kid who I sat next to in high school English class (it was actually him, no hyperbole or metaphors here) jump behind a wall as enemy fire sets off an explosion less than 20 feet from him.