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Old 11-18-2004, 06:47 PM   #49 (permalink)
zen_tom
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So let me see if I can boil this down.

-Iran has vowed to destroy Israel.
-Iran took over the American embassey and held Americans for 444 days.
-Iran has sponsored terrorists and sheltered them.
-Iran with nukes is OK because American might attack them and surely wouldn't attack Israel because Israel has nukes.
No, you have failed to understand lebell. Let me try a similar argument to call it quits, and then I'll try again.

-The United States Vowed Iraqi 'Regime Change'
-The United States has Killed More than 444 civillians during it's 'Liberation of Iraq'
-Israel was born out of Zionist terrorism
-Why would American attack Israel? (I really don't understand what you mean by that sentence)

Blah blah, you've soaked up all the nationalistic propaganda. Try and see things objectively. There are no good-guys/bad-guys in this picture, this isn't a movie, it's real life - everyone is out for themselves. Like I said before terrorism is warfare conducted by people with few resources against people with lots of resources. The opposite of terrorism I suppose would be carpet bombing, cruise missiles and other brute displays of technological millitary force.

Now decide whether you would prefer to see dead Arabs or dead people of European origin. If you prefer thousands more of the former, and a good few hundred of the latter, then carry on putting the pressure on a worried and increasingly desparate race of people. If the Arab nations begin to suspect that we really are picking them off one by one, it would make sense for them to leage together and then we'd be in for some real trouble.

If you prefer that the minimum number of people are killed needlessly, then doesn't it make sense to take steps to defuse an explosive situation?

Getting ready to do an Iraq 2 on Iran because of a vague and dimly percieved potential threat is both paranoid and is itself the kind of stance that could be percieved as threatening. Like I said before, this is what the Bin Ladin people want the west to do. Why are you so keen to play into their hands?

The West is more than capable of restoring peace and democracy to the region using the most powerful weapons in her arsenal, diplomacy and capitalist economics. How many people want to become freedom fighters if the alternative is a good job, a wife and a meal at the end of the day washed down with a lovely glass of Coke-a-Cola?

How many governments are liable to launch a nuclear weapon and be assured a swift and mighty response due to an irrational hatred of Jews? (No-one has explained the reasons why these fanatics want to destroy Israel, are they all just crazy people?)

Seriously, explain to me the mindset that would willingly destroy ones own country for the sake of taking out an Israeli city? Nuclear weapons are not offensive weapons, they are deterrant weapons, and it would be an act of extreme and dangerous stupidity for a government to believe otherwise.
 
 

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