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Old 11-18-2004, 05:56 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by powerclown
There's no problem with my interpretation, roachboy, the problem of interpretation is yours. There were 1200 insurgents reported killed. The objective was to take control of the city out of the hands of the bad guys, and into the hands of the Iraqi security forces. This objective was completed successfully, and it took all of 1 week. These insurgent clowns, fighting in sandals and warm-up suits, crumbled in less than 7 days. And this was their 'stronghold'.

Again, the solution isn't military, obviously. These bugs can be squashed wherever, whenever. The fight is for the approval of the Iraqi citizens. They don't seem to know what the hell they want, and completely unneccesary garbage (probably aired with the approval of anti-Bush TV execs) like the Sites video only makes things worse, or better, depending how you look at it.

You sound like you swallowed the president.

He accused kerry of being stuck in a pre-9/11 mindset, yet he was the one stuck in the past.

His inability to connect the realities of fighting a decentralized enemy plays out in the media, which amplifies his message, and settles in your mind as an objective fact.


The reason why both Iraq and Fallujah were pieces of cake are because there is no centralized command. There is no stronghold. The fighters melted away again. That is failure in this type of war. Especially if you hinge victory on the notion of winning hearts and minds of people.

Tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians are being killed by direct military action and indirectly due to the disruption to the cities. These events in no rational universe equate to victory.

What exactly is going on with the interim goverrnment? The top people are resigning and elections are nowhere on the horizon--aren't they supposed to be happening in a few weeks? It's sickening that those people's offices are being raided and the people disappearing and harassed by our government (oh, scratch that, by other governments that we fly them to).
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