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rfra3645 · 11-18-2004, 05:45 PM

wallmart....

Well i have never been in 1 until about 7 yrs ago... and then it all started...

Since i can’t even think how much i spend there...

1000 a month easy...

I have an opinion here and ill voice it now...

I didn’t read the link or watch the show mentioned above...

These are my thoughts...

Wallmart forces (or tells what they will pay for stuff) impact smaller business occasionally large corporations...

If any business doesn’t want to make the sale don’t.
I don’t understand how someone can say yes ill sell to you but im not gonna be happy about it... don’t sell it to them... some people say well that’s obvious they "need" to make the sale. Yes they do if i had a toy store and made some toys and Wallmart even showed a little interest i would suck who ever off to get make that sale... hers my "duh” if you don’t want to or cant expand to put your 15$ toy on 7000 shelves and have numbers has to be close to the millions of inventory or stock or whatever.. Don’t make the sale. How can Wallmart think about offering a product that they can’t keep in stock because the maker doesn’t have a big enuf organization to keep up with demand? Im sure Wallmart has a number of what there inventory has to be for x amount of days or until they discontinue selling it..."my toy" had better be able to keep up. I need to be able to produce it. As i produce more my costs better drop as i buy more of the material im using. My productivity better increase as my employees learn the process... if i only make .75$ profit on a 13$ toy but sell 1000000 of them that’s still a decent piece of change. If Wallmart knows how much it costs me either because i told them while "courting them" or they have thee own sneakery they should be able to say ill give you .63$ instead of the .75$ why wouldn’t they. Someone in this thread said it right on...wallmart controls a huge piece of the global economy. They obviously know it. In order for them to continue selling the cheapest stuff they need to buy it competitively. I do when i build something its really like well "duh"

Ok employees. Not set hours not set benefits. Lower wage... impact local economies individual’s

Well this in my opinion is verry close to the rest of the lower pay class. If you work at mcds for 10 years and are still only making 9$ an hour it’s your own fault. Same as Wallmart. I see them as the largest corp. in America and expanding by who knows how much. If your there for 2 years and still only making 6$ an hour i blame you... you say well i don’t want to expand my knowledge wither it be learning a different area of the store or more responsibility fine in fact that’s great ill pay you $6 an hour for ever.. And either you’ll quit or you stay... i do not see any other company having a much different plan than this. Really after typing this out i see wall mart ahead of the curve by giving every employee the best shot at promotion they can have, learn the whole store ASAP and it works good for all. If they need someone to do something (yes i know that’s like work) they can ask anyone. And if you do learn excel and show interest in your job the 15 hrs a week your working you probably will see that turn onto 30.

Ok let’s talk about Wallmart forcing jobs out of the country. Impact local, possibly national,

Someone here said people are loosing high paying jobs as companies outsource jobs. Let’s look at that a little bit... i can’t see high paying jobs being outsourced some but not enuf to cause mass unemployment. Im talking about lets say 15$ an hour on up. Mort likely gonna be management id dare say lower than that is line workers. This may be different if there are unions but i highly doubt thee are to many unionized places ever making Wallmart stuff. It just doesn’t make sense according to the Wallmart plan. How could they use union help and still create cheap products in the ammt they need. It’s not feasible unions as a whole cant make a high number of products cheap. They are too greedy. I need more money less work and more overtime where i sit in the break room avoiding work. (for any card holders out there that do not fit this profile i assure you are a small percentage less than well 15%) so lets say im back in my toy factory making the forced .63$ profit and employees think well im not getting enuf money i need more so they tell me ( their boss) we want a raise if you don’t give it to us we will slow down our work or become unionized. i say im sorry i cant give it to you i only get .63$ a piece i cant afford anymore. So my work force drops there productivity. i can as a boss either let it happen and watch my business fail, i could fire them all )before they become union) and hire street workers invest the money to train them and hope they don’t do the same thing, i would not but could do nothing and watch them join or create a local. Ok so its 3 things as a boss i can do... as a business guy selling to Wallmart i can either say look i need more money my people want more. (Wallmart laughs) says ha you have a contract we will not let you get out of try too if you want. Oh by the way we are the biggest corp. in America and can afford way more lawyers than you. Wallmart protects itself. It is entitled to. "Duh" they are a business too. They could also say hey i know a guy in a Sudan that has an unlimited workforce that’ll work happily for (conversation sake. this may be higher or lower) .63$ an hour. Calls him make a deal do it. By the way you have a contract. If you default we get your business. So as a boss now i take it back to my employees. Hey fellas and women i got a plan for you... keep your job make the same money you signed up for everyone stays happy. Or c-ya im going to Sudan where they work for what i currently make and i all of sudden make what all of you make. 12$ profit instead of .63$ hum yeah i wonder what ill do, oh never mind screw you guys im out. Too bad you "had to have that raise” i don’t see a whole lot wrong with this picture. Some but i would not say evil. Just capitalism at its best isnt that what America does best.

One more topic.

Mom n pop stores. Effect out of business. Impact small town’s local gov’s possible national effect if there was enuf of them.

Problem Wallmart comes to main st America and all of sudden ma n pop shops are dropping of main st and becoming empty buildings. Yes this is a problem but how can you realy blame Wallmart. If the ma n pop shops wanted to compete they had all the chance in the world. They couldn’t or wouldn’t so they lost. Yet again another "Duh” if you don’t compete you lose. Yes Wallmart is huge and yes they get their stuff cheaper than probably any ma n pop could think of. But really if the ma n pop was really a nig contributor to the local economy what do they have to lose? A few customers. Not if they offer a good economic product. I would never go into a store and buy anything just because i knew the person that ran/owned it. If they don’t have a good deal i don’t want it. Do you? I don’t think Wallmart can be help responsible for putting the final even few nails in a coffin that’s most likely been in the ground for quite sometime. If these little shops had such a good thing going on or really wanted to stay around i think they could... true the local economy must be able to support several stores but i don’t see Wallmart in less than 5000 (pop) towns, and i really don’t see a huge local economy in those towns. Truth i say they are better for the locals. Look at tax revenues. Alone. At least triple i wouldn’t be suppressed to hear 5x's the amount from all the local business revues combined.

Ok this turned big but if you read this in its whole i want to hear what you have to say.

If you know of actual facts i would be interested in seeing the link to them.

I don’t think 3 -20 towns across the us constitutes a national takeover from Uncle Wally

I want to hear what yall think about Wallmart being a ma n pop shop to begin with.

I wrote this all from my head and 1 final spell check. So

11-18-2004, 05:45 PM	#32 (permalink)
rfra3645 Crazy Location: geff il	wallmart.... Well i have never been in 1 until about 7 yrs ago... and then it all started... Since i can’t even think how much i spend there... 1000 a month easy... I have an opinion here and ill voice it now... I didn’t read the link or watch the show mentioned above... These are my thoughts... Wallmart forces (or tells what they will pay for stuff) impact smaller business occasionally large corporations... If any business doesn’t want to make the sale don’t. I don’t understand how someone can say yes ill sell to you but im not gonna be happy about it... don’t sell it to them... some people say well that’s obvious they "need" to make the sale. Yes they do if i had a toy store and made some toys and Wallmart even showed a little interest i would suck who ever off to get make that sale... hers my "duh” if you don’t want to or cant expand to put your 15$ toy on 7000 shelves and have numbers has to be close to the millions of inventory or stock or whatever.. Don’t make the sale. How can Wallmart think about offering a product that they can’t keep in stock because the maker doesn’t have a big enuf organization to keep up with demand? Im sure Wallmart has a number of what there inventory has to be for x amount of days or until they discontinue selling it..."my toy" had better be able to keep up. I need to be able to produce it. As i produce more my costs better drop as i buy more of the material im using. My productivity better increase as my employees learn the process... if i only make .75$ profit on a 13$ toy but sell 1000000 of them that’s still a decent piece of change. If Wallmart knows how much it costs me either because i told them while "courting them" or they have thee own sneakery they should be able to say ill give you .63$ instead of the .75$ why wouldn’t they. Someone in this thread said it right on...wallmart controls a huge piece of the global economy. They obviously know it. In order for them to continue selling the cheapest stuff they need to buy it competitively. I do when i build something its really like well "duh" Ok employees. Not set hours not set benefits. Lower wage... impact local economies individual’s Well this in my opinion is verry close to the rest of the lower pay class. If you work at mcds for 10 years and are still only making 9$ an hour it’s your own fault. Same as Wallmart. I see them as the largest corp. in America and expanding by who knows how much. If your there for 2 years and still only making 6$ an hour i blame you... you say well i don’t want to expand my knowledge wither it be learning a different area of the store or more responsibility fine in fact that’s great ill pay you $6 an hour for ever.. And either you’ll quit or you stay... i do not see any other company having a much different plan than this. Really after typing this out i see wall mart ahead of the curve by giving every employee the best shot at promotion they can have, learn the whole store ASAP and it works good for all. If they need someone to do something (yes i know that’s like work) they can ask anyone. And if you do learn excel and show interest in your job the 15 hrs a week your working you probably will see that turn onto 30. Ok let’s talk about Wallmart forcing jobs out of the country. Impact local, possibly national, Someone here said people are loosing high paying jobs as companies outsource jobs. Let’s look at that a little bit... i can’t see high paying jobs being outsourced some but not enuf to cause mass unemployment. Im talking about lets say 15$ an hour on up. Mort likely gonna be management id dare say lower than that is line workers. This may be different if there are unions but i highly doubt thee are to many unionized places ever making Wallmart stuff. It just doesn’t make sense according to the Wallmart plan. How could they use union help and still create cheap products in the ammt they need. It’s not feasible unions as a whole cant make a high number of products cheap. They are too greedy. I need more money less work and more overtime where i sit in the break room avoiding work. (for any card holders out there that do not fit this profile i assure you are a small percentage less than well 15%) so lets say im back in my toy factory making the forced .63$ profit and employees think well im not getting enuf money i need more so they tell me ( their boss) we want a raise if you don’t give it to us we will slow down our work or become unionized. i say im sorry i cant give it to you i only get .63$ a piece i cant afford anymore. So my work force drops there productivity. i can as a boss either let it happen and watch my business fail, i could fire them all )before they become union) and hire street workers invest the money to train them and hope they don’t do the same thing, i would not but could do nothing and watch them join or create a local. Ok so its 3 things as a boss i can do... as a business guy selling to Wallmart i can either say look i need more money my people want more. (Wallmart laughs) says ha you have a contract we will not let you get out of try too if you want. Oh by the way we are the biggest corp. in America and can afford way more lawyers than you. Wallmart protects itself. It is entitled to. "Duh" they are a business too. They could also say hey i know a guy in a Sudan that has an unlimited workforce that’ll work happily for (conversation sake. this may be higher or lower) .63$ an hour. Calls him make a deal do it. By the way you have a contract. If you default we get your business. So as a boss now i take it back to my employees. Hey fellas and women i got a plan for you... keep your job make the same money you signed up for everyone stays happy. Or c-ya im going to Sudan where they work for what i currently make and i all of sudden make what all of you make. 12$ profit instead of .63$ hum yeah i wonder what ill do, oh never mind screw you guys im out. Too bad you "had to have that raise” i don’t see a whole lot wrong with this picture. Some but i would not say evil. Just capitalism at its best isnt that what America does best. One more topic. Mom n pop stores. Effect out of business. Impact small town’s local gov’s possible national effect if there was enuf of them. Problem Wallmart comes to main st America and all of sudden ma n pop shops are dropping of main st and becoming empty buildings. Yes this is a problem but how can you realy blame Wallmart. If the ma n pop shops wanted to compete they had all the chance in the world. They couldn’t or wouldn’t so they lost. Yet again another "Duh” if you don’t compete you lose. Yes Wallmart is huge and yes they get their stuff cheaper than probably any ma n pop could think of. But really if the ma n pop was really a nig contributor to the local economy what do they have to lose? A few customers. Not if they offer a good economic product. I would never go into a store and buy anything just because i knew the person that ran/owned it. If they don’t have a good deal i don’t want it. Do you? I don’t think Wallmart can be help responsible for putting the final even few nails in a coffin that’s most likely been in the ground for quite sometime. If these little shops had such a good thing going on or really wanted to stay around i think they could... true the local economy must be able to support several stores but i don’t see Wallmart in less than 5000 (pop) towns, and i really don’t see a huge local economy in those towns. Truth i say they are better for the locals. Look at tax revenues. Alone. At least triple i wouldn’t be suppressed to hear 5x's the amount from all the local business revues combined. Ok this turned big but if you read this in its whole i want to hear what you have to say. If you know of actual facts i would be interested in seeing the link to them. I don’t think 3 -20 towns across the us constitutes a national takeover from Uncle Wally I want to hear what yall think about Wallmart being a ma n pop shop to begin with. I wrote this all from my head and 1 final spell check. So __________________ this post is a natural product made from recycled electrons. the slight variations in spelling, grammar and punctuation enhance its individual character and individuality and are in no way to be considered flaws or defects. if you cant read my post i dont want to hear about it move on. thanks