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Old 11-18-2004, 01:40 AM   #99 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kalibah
Look, I am not 'for' or against the marine- being guilty or not, i like to remind people that YOU have the benifit of watching the clip in the comfort of your SAFE home. He was there, being shot at, IEDs in corpses, blowing up when people move them, being shot at by Iraqis waving white flags to get Marines out in the open, etc.


Before ANYONE condems him, think what the events leading up to it were like. Put yourself in his shoes, remember what happened in the days leading up to it, like I said above, IEDs in corpses, etc, and THEN you might see why he did what he did. Honestly, if your in that room, and what you think is a coprse moves- you would instintivly shoot it- and dont dare deny that- you would... so would everyone else. Let the investigation take its course, but dont condem the man because you saw a clip, a snapshop, of what he was doing and had been through. Im not saying he made the right decision, im not saying he made the wrong one, im just saying he did what everyone else woulda done instictivly. He didnt shoot out of hate or malice- he did it out of instinct, and everyone ignores that fact

He didn't do it instinctively. Humans don't have instincts, for one thing. Or, if you want to get all caught up in minuetia (?), then socialization and reasonable thought processes govern one's actions rather than whatever residual instincts we might have. He made a choice, and it was the wrong choice. We can judge that by its ramifications. We know the person did not have an explosive device on him. We also know the wounded were left in the Mosque for 24 hours prior (which is also wrong and I believe illegal).

He may have done it out of habit, training, or fear, but not out of instinct. Besides, what instinct do humans have to shoot other humans? Where would you trace that to?


And I've been meaning to say this about the use of Hassan in this thread:

It's despicable for Ustwo to even have brought her up in the fashion he did. I never saw one peep of a call for silence in her memory. And it's remarkably callous to use her name to make a political point. In fact, his actions mirrored those of the terrorists in my view--they, too, used her to make a political point.
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