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pan6467 · 11-17-2004, 04:59 PM

Notice how many ask where the money comes from or offers arguments as to why this is okay.

We have to look beyond initial cost and figure out what is more beneficial in the long term. Long term right now is bleak to say the least. The only way to change things is to either tariff imports and make it again worthwhile to pay employees middle income wages and re-open factories. (Worked pretty damn well from the end of WW2 till the late 80's.) Or raise taxes on the rich and reinforce education not just for the children but for the displaced workers. Train and educate people to get the jobs that are high paying. Yes, taxes go up, yes, education is the primary focus BUT, the alternatives as discussed before in previous posts I've written, end with the rich paying more taxes anyway or a revolution in society by the worker once they have had enough.

Personally, this time is more profitable for me. My family is making a bundle. Dad is running a surveying company and breaking up farms and gaining land from those who need to sell it (taking his pick of parcels as payment. Mother is gaining money in auctions buying antiques dirt cheap then selling them for 50-100+% markups in my mother's shop or on E-Bay. I, personally, will profit because the more people feel hopeless the more addiction there is, the more need for addictions counselors there are.

My family profits on the losses of others. I should be all for it then, right? Wrong because I look long term and while my sister and I and maybe our kids will be set there are many out there that won't be and the country will be at odds and a very negative place to live. The USA should never be negative. I grew up believing that anything was possible here and that this country strived to be better than anyone else.... we don't and we aren't. The truth is we have people striving to MAKE as much as they can by utilizing those who struggle just to keep a roof over their head and try to live decent lives.

So the reality is my family and I will lose money if times get better, but my children and grandchildren may have a better country than what I have now, and that is what I want.

11-17-2004, 04:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Notice how many ask where the money comes from or offers arguments as to why this is okay. We have to look beyond initial cost and figure out what is more beneficial in the long term. Long term right now is bleak to say the least. The only way to change things is to either tariff imports and make it again worthwhile to pay employees middle income wages and re-open factories. (Worked pretty damn well from the end of WW2 till the late 80's.) Or raise taxes on the rich and reinforce education not just for the children but for the displaced workers. Train and educate people to get the jobs that are high paying. Yes, taxes go up, yes, education is the primary focus BUT, the alternatives as discussed before in previous posts I've written, end with the rich paying more taxes anyway or a revolution in society by the worker once they have had enough. Personally, this time is more profitable for me. My family is making a bundle. Dad is running a surveying company and breaking up farms and gaining land from those who need to sell it (taking his pick of parcels as payment. Mother is gaining money in auctions buying antiques dirt cheap then selling them for 50-100+% markups in my mother's shop or on E-Bay. I, personally, will profit because the more people feel hopeless the more addiction there is, the more need for addictions counselors there are. My family profits on the losses of others. I should be all for it then, right? Wrong because I look long term and while my sister and I and maybe our kids will be set there are many out there that won't be and the country will be at odds and a very negative place to live. The USA should never be negative. I grew up believing that anything was possible here and that this country strived to be better than anyone else.... we don't and we aren't. The truth is we have people striving to MAKE as much as they can by utilizing those who struggle just to keep a roof over their head and try to live decent lives. So the reality is my family and I will lose money if times get better, but my children and grandchildren may have a better country than what I have now, and that is what I want. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"