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Originally Posted by Mr Mephisto
I find it interesting that many of this board's Bush supporters are now touting such nonesense as "Wave goodbye" or "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out" etc...
One half of the electorate now feel disenfranchised (to a greater or lesser degree). Some of them are so disillusioned that they are now questioning whether America, the current America, America under Bush, the neo-con right-wing religiously pandering America is where they want to be.
That's entirely their right.
But ridiculing them because of it is not only inappropriate (especially on a board specifically for such discussions) but downright hypocritical. Many of the same Bush supporters on this board claimed such nonsense that there would be a civil war if Kerry won, that the nation would be torn asunder like nothing since the 1860's if Kerry won, boasted they threatened Kerry supporters with firearms, proudly stated that the left would ignore the Evangelical and right-wing voters at their peril and so on ad nauseum.
However, now we have another tune. Decidedly NOT magnanimous in victory, they now respond to simple opinions and statements of disappointment with insult. It is not the Kerry supporters who threatened civil war or spouted pompous philippics on how the end of American civilization was nigh. They have simply been disappointed and confused and, in some circumstances, driven to question their current lives in an America which now seems to hold ideals highly they cannot support.
The difference is notable. And the nastiness is tangible.
Mr Mephisto
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It is not nonsense for one American to say Bye-Bye to another that either leaves the country or whines incessantly about leaving the country all because JFKerry is not president. There are pretty important elections every two years in this country. Win the next one, don't, leave the country, stay, all of these are fine.
I don't know who claimed a Kerry win would bring Civil War--I suppose there are crackpots who said just things, but aren't they crackpots who are worthy of a pointed response to such silliness if not outright ridicule?
The bye-bye response is not "love it or leave it." At least I am not saying you can't criticize or you have to be on the side of the administration. I am saying that simply packing up and leaving is not a valid criticism, it is not debate--it's whining--especially since almost no one is actually going that wasn't going anyway. You want to criticize actual things the administration is doing, that's fine. You want to whine and talk about leaving, I guess that's fine too, but to whine and then say its somehow nasty to respond with "go ahead and leave" is too much.
We all have our way of looking at things, but how do we get so self-assured and smart that we feel it's our perogative to complain, threaten, not do anything, and then call anyone who disagrees with us nasty and mean.
As to the nasty, who here can't taste and feel the nasty written over and over towards the current administation on these boards?