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Old 11-15-2004, 08:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tarl Cabot
It doesn't strike you as odd how al Quaeda is all over Iraq? Beheading people, etc.?

Even if you want to claim the al Quaeda members went there after we arrived, isn't it better to have them there than in the US?

By the way, we've neutralized 75% of its members.
They are there and here. I don't see why this either-or fallacy gets floated around and somehow retains currency. Possibly some of it has to do with the fact that the people most spouting it are not anywhere near a place that is most affected by immigration and terrorism.

For example, our nighly news has been running reports on the tens of thousands of suspected terrorists posing as mexicans and streaming across the border. and that doesn't even touch on the people already living here. damn, I would think that the military people here would be more conscious of how cells operate--after all, we fucking taught them how to organize into cells.

Nor the second notion: we neutralized 75% of al qaeda? no, the best I'd give you is that the US got 75% of the names it listed as those of interest.

How exactly do you figure out what percentage you've got if you don't know who is involved? That is, the government would need to know how many people were in al qaeda before you could even begin to believe it had gotten any percentage of them.
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