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Old 11-15-2004, 10:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
hrdwareguy
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Originally Posted by longbough
I presume you are referring to the opposition "gun-folks" have to the "Assault Weapons" Ban.
I'm glad you mention this because there's a big misconception that should be adressed.

#1. Fully automatic (i.e. class 3 weapons) are already illegal for private citizens to purchase and own (with rare exceptions) throughout the US for many years. People assume events like the "Hollywood shootout" reflects the weakness of current legislation. This is false. Those automatic weapons cannot be purchased in your local gun-shop or gun-show. They were obtained illegally.
Please do some research instead of posting incorrect statements. (Sorry if this is offensive, but this has been covered many times already.) I do not consider people owing full auto weapons as rare. Check out this thread on class 3 items for more information. The info in the link refers to federal law. State laws may apply, but I think it unreasonable to say they are already illegal just because they are in California.

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Originally Posted by longbough
#2. The "Assault Weapons" Ban is NOT a ban on fully automatic "Assault Weapons." It only establishes the legal precident to ban firearms on the basis of cosmetic features alone.
"Gun-folks", like me, are baffled with the descriptions of "evil features" that "define" the "Assault Weapon."
Flash hiders -simply protect a shooter from being blinded by excessive muzzle blast. They are NOT made to conceal your position while shooting- that is a myth. It wouldn't be very effective anyway for that purpose.
Collapsable Stock - It is not used for facilitating concealment under a treanchcoat. It is for storage or for "de-bulking" paratroopers' loads. The basis for the "treanchcoat" myth is pure Hollywood. While criminals may have hidden long guns beneath long coats this has little to do with a collapsable stock.
For a heavy battle-rifle like the FN-FAL, a collapsable stock wouldn't help at all.
Pistol grip - pure cosmetic. It is not used to facilitate "one-handed" shooting of a rifle. If you wanted to convert any long gun to a "one-handed" weapon you can just cut off the stock and it can still be gripped. Crooks commonly do this for double barrelled shotguns which don't have pistol grips. Even so, a semi-auto rifle or shotgun is just too damned heavy to use one-handed anyway.
Bayonet lug - when was the last time you ever saw a crook who used a rifle with a bayonet?
I could go on but you get the point.
Your forgot grenade launcher. However I must point out that grenades are 40mm devices and to own anything over 40mm, you must have a destructive device permit. Therefore if you have a destructive device permit, this does not apply to you. What gets sold on AR-15's are actually 37mm flare launchers. They also fire "bird bombs", that just go pop. Farmers have used them for years to scare crows out of the fields.
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