roachboy

tarl: what the founding fathers did not imagine as necessary in the late 1700s--in the context of a largely agrarian economy--makes no difference whatsoever in the 21st century. even during the period when tocqueville was researching "democracy in america"--the late 1830s--the agrarian model for the american economy was not really dominant--capitalism was taking shape in the cities--the civil war pretty much determined which general mode of economic activity would dominate in the states. so the world jefferson wrote about is long gone, tarl. it does not matter what they found horrifying--their was a different place.

not interested in the second point, as what i have to say on the matter is either in the post above or here.

on your third "point"---capitalism has a history, tarl. you could read about it.
then maybe we could have an interesting conversation. right now, this is nonsense.

on your john birch society views of the un--read the last part of the longer post above...around the "world peace=world communism" bit.


the rest of your post--your "examples"---operate on assumptions that are absurd, so there is no way to respond.

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