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Old 11-14-2004, 02:02 AM   #26 (permalink)
hannukah harry
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Originally Posted by joeshoe
I say, if they want to teach creationism, so be it.
so you'd be okay if they also taught my theory that the world was created by dropping out of the anus of a giant pink and purple polka dotted unicorn with a bad case of jock itch?

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Originally Posted by thefictionweliv
The C v. E debate is one reason why the public school system is a flawed establishment, the forced teaching of evolution is the state taking a stance against religion and therefore against the separation concept as much as the forced teaching of creationism would be. Niether christians nor athiests should be required to support the establishment of their respective counterparts.
but it's not the state taking a stance about religion. it is teaching the scientific communities current theory on our origin. creationism and intelligent design are not 'theories' is only one sense of the word. they're stories, they're ideas, not unlike conspiracy theories. no evidence so they can't be proved, and unfortunatly can't be disproved. i don't hear anyone complaining that teaching theories about how the sun functions and stars form is establishing a state stance on religion by not saying that they work because god said so.


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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
I think if you're gonna teach one, you need to teach both....students need to understand that not everyone believes one or the other....its more of education both sides of the coin in my opinion
unfortunatly not all students (age/maturity dependent) are able to differentiate between a real theory and a fictional story. creationism has to be taken on faith because there is no evidence for it. how can you teach something with no facts and no testable hypothesis possible in a public school? these two issues are not opposite sides of the same coin. they're two different coins, and they're not even the same currency.

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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
I've long thought that education children world religions would be such a good thing, as well as teaching evolution and ummm Im not sure what you'd call it....but where they would be educated on atheism and agnostics as well....but Im one of those geeks that studied it all on my own so that I would be able to ask the people in the world that I meet from various religions intelligent questions.

but thats just me....like I said Im a geek
i would have no problem with a comparative religions class teaching various religious beliefs and their origin stories. but keep it out of the science class rooms. evolution has been observable. while it's workings are not 100% known yet, there's much more evidence for it than for creationism. a lot (evolution) to none (creationism).
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