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pan6467 · 11-13-2004, 09:39 PM

When Clinton and the Dems won it all in 1992, I remember the GOP claiming it wasn't a mandate and that Clinton would lose the congress because the Dems would go to far. And he did. There was the press and radio talk hosts and all this hype over "term limits" and "Republican Revolution" and how these Republicans signed the charter saying they would only run so many terms and seek to make term limits law and not have "government as usual". Blah, blah, blah blah and so on and so on.....

Yet, these same Republicans, who ran and signed all that term limit crapola and such are still in office.

So, like some GOP in '92, I'm willing to sit back and give the other party a chance to either put up or shut up. I guarantee the Dems in 2 and 4 years will comeback much much stronger, just as the GOP did. And people will be reminded of how 10 years ago (12 and 14 in '06 and '08) how these GOP talked of term limits and that great Charter they signed that they never have brought up since.

So if you want to call what is happening a mandate then so be it. In '92 Clinton had a mandate and the Dem party fell apart I see the gGOP doing the same with this.... but we'll see. Just like those term limits and the what was it 40 points that the GOP were going to fight for that they to this day haven't....... hmmmmm.

Put up or shut up time guys let your actions do the talking now... hell, you control enough of congress with GOP "friendly" Dems that there won't even be any filibusters or reasons to blame the Dems for holding up any of these great laws you are going to pass.

As for Bush's overwheling support by the people....

1) Kerry was not a great candidate, his demeanor and attitude din't win many over

2) 3% is the LEAST any poll ever uses as their margin of Error, it's usually 3-5% soooo Bush's win falls into every polls margin of error.... not saying he didn't win, just saying if this were just one of the many many polls we were subjected to this past year it would be considered a dead heat.

3) You still have 57 million that voted against Bush, and in all honesty probably at the very least 75% of those votes were against Bush and not for Kerry because he never was clear on his issues,he had a lot of talk about what to do and what needed done BUT he never truly said how it would be done. Soooo I think the election shows the disappointment in Bush more than anything. Had a man who had talked of how things would get done and what he truly stood for ran I think the election results would have been a lot different... Kerry turned off too many voters, almost like he wanted to lose.

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pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	When Clinton and the Dems won it all in 1992, I remember the GOP claiming it wasn't a mandate and that Clinton would lose the congress because the Dems would go to far. And he did. There was the press and radio talk hosts and all this hype over "term limits" and "Republican Revolution" and how these Republicans signed the charter saying they would only run so many terms and seek to make term limits law and not have "government as usual". Blah, blah, blah blah and so on and so on..... Yet, these same Republicans, who ran and signed all that term limit crapola and such are still in office. So, like some GOP in '92, I'm willing to sit back and give the other party a chance to either put up or shut up. I guarantee the Dems in 2 and 4 years will comeback much much stronger, just as the GOP did. And people will be reminded of how 10 years ago (12 and 14 in '06 and '08) how these GOP talked of term limits and that great Charter they signed that they never have brought up since. So if you want to call what is happening a mandate then so be it. In '92 Clinton had a mandate and the Dem party fell apart I see the gGOP doing the same with this.... but we'll see. Just like those term limits and the what was it 40 points that the GOP were going to fight for that they to this day haven't....... hmmmmm. Put up or shut up time guys let your actions do the talking now... hell, you control enough of congress with GOP "friendly" Dems that there won't even be any filibusters or reasons to blame the Dems for holding up any of these great laws you are going to pass. As for Bush's overwheling support by the people.... 1) Kerry was not a great candidate, his demeanor and attitude din't win many over 2) 3% is the LEAST any poll ever uses as their margin of Error, it's usually 3-5% soooo Bush's win falls into every polls margin of error.... not saying he didn't win, just saying if this were just one of the many many polls we were subjected to this past year it would be considered a dead heat. 3) You still have 57 million that voted against Bush, and in all honesty probably at the very least 75% of those votes were against Bush and not for Kerry because he never was clear on his issues,he had a lot of talk about what to do and what needed done BUT he never truly said how it would be done. Soooo I think the election shows the disappointment in Bush more than anything. Had a man who had talked of how things would get done and what he truly stood for ran I think the election results would have been a lot different... Kerry turned off too many voters, almost like he wanted to lose. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 11-13-2004 at 10:17 PM..